Joe Calzaghe turns 36 today

[hardmanbrit]

They are both amazing, really - to be in the top 5 p4p at ages when most fighters retire (36) or long been retired (43).

Yes, both truly magnificent fighters, but the unbeaten World Champion of over a decade just edges it for me.

[The Hammer]

On his last performance, a year ago, I wouldn't say Hopkins was one of the five best boxers in the world.

BoxRec rates Bernard Hopkins as #1 p4p, and The Ring Magazine has him ahead of Joe at #4 p4p.

Mind you, I'm not saying I agree...

[Orange Sneakers]

As I recall, Tocker Pudwill came in on short notice because Joe's scheduled opponent pulled out of the fight. Pudwill wasn't the opponent Joe had planned on fighting...

OK, but what about the other 19 Tocker Pudwill's?

[The Hammer]

OK, but what about the other 19 Tocker Pudwill's?

If you think Kessler, Lacy, Eubank, Sheika, Veit, Mitchell, Reid, and Bika are on the same level as Pudwill, then you don't know anything about boxing.

[Orange Sneakers]

If you think Kessler, Lacy, Eubank, Sheika, Veit, Mitchell, Reid, and Bika are on the same level as Pudwill, then you don't know anything about boxing.

2007, 2006, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2003, 1999, 2006. That's not consistent.

Robin Reid was never as good as Richie Woodhall, FWIW

Jeff Lacy was never very good (see him struggling for his life with Don Wiggins at the MEN Arena, and getting beat up by a shot Omar Sheika)

And Joe Calzaghe isn't as good as Eubank was

The ammount of right hands Calzaghe has taken in his career is immense, especially from Robin Reid, who was perhaps the most flat-footed world champion in boxing history (and probably the worst, barring Gavin Rees)

[paul750]

Jeff Lacy was never very good (see him struggling for his life with Don Wiggins at the MEN Arena, and getting beat up by a shot Omar Sheika)

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You had him down to beat Calzaghe in one round. LMAO

[Orange Sneakers]

You had him down to beat Calzaghe in one round. LMAO

And he would have done if Calzaghe fought his usual fight (swinging his left hand from all angles wildly from the opening bell)

[The Hammer]

The ammount of right hands Calzaghe has taken in his career is immense,

Really! Why, you'd think he'd be a shot fighter at his age if he took so many rights! After all, you say Eubank already shot at age 31...

But Calzaghe sure didn't look shot in his last fight against the undefeated, prime age WBA and WBC champion Mikkel Kessler.

[Orange Sneakers]

Not if he took the right hands, had nine months off, then fought a Tocker who couldn't throw a punch (let alone land one), another nine months off and then back to taking right hands again and slapping his way through. You *****. **** off.

Chris took the fight on 11 days notice, Chris lost 20lbs in seven days, Chris always looked **** against southpaws, Chris was down in a heap in 15 seconds, Chris didn't like fighting at a pace

[Orange Sneakers]

Kessler is a strong kid but quite ordinary, and was officially the most padded fighter in history. Markus Beyer wasn't even very good to begin with, let alone when Kessler fought him

Lacy was too slow and Kessler was too stiff, 43-year-old Hopkins will reduce the output on movement alone