Vera beating Lee is more respectable than Pacman losing to Torrecampo...

**Stormin' Norman** · 03-22-2008, 11:10 AM

ooh! I found this fight...

Pacman getting knocked the **** out by Torrecampo, a Filipino journeyman. Don't blink

**Gareth Ivanovic** · 03-22-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Stormin' Norman

true ****. look how far Pac man made it, after being KO'd, yet, legitimately KO'd vs Rustico Torrecampo...now he's a legend and people are talking about him being an ATG, so this isn't the end for Lee, he's just really young is all...im not even a fan of andy lee, just stating the obvious...

for the record Torrecampo finished his career one year after KO'ing Pacman with 14 wins and 8 losses...

a few fights after Torrecampo Paciauo fought a guy named Medgoen Singsurat..he also ko'd paciauo in the third round.

so...dont hate on the kid too hard, it happens. and it wasn't a legitimate ko, either, unlike Pacman's first loss.

True it goes to show just because Lee lost and to a opponent that didnt seem to be in his league. It doesn't mean that he's done or should be written off. We're gonna find out a lot about him now though and how he responses to this. He could either fall apart and nothing will come of him or he will step and show us why there was so much hype surrounding him. I hope the latter is the case.

**Stormin' Norman** · 03-22-2008, 11:13 AM

and here's pacman getting ktfo by singsurat a few fights after that

sing is no bum though..he finished his career with a record of 55-5

**Gareth Ivanovic** · 03-22-2008, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Stormin' Norman

ooh! I found this fight...

Pacman getting knocked the **** out by Torrecampo, a Filipino journeyman. Don't blink

That seemed like Pac was hurt with a body shot and his head hit the canvas hard and was KO'ed because of that. Either way he was still hurt with good shot.

**Stormin' Norman** · 03-22-2008, 11:17 AM

I thought it was square on the chin.

nice, here's the entire sing fight. never seen this one...pac was so young

**Gareth Ivanovic** · 03-22-2008, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Stormin' Norman

and here's pacman getting ktfo by singsurat a few fights after that

sing is no bum though..he finished his career with a record of 55-5

I think he had some trouble making the weight before that fight (not quite sure), but it seemed like bodyshots really hurt him back then.

**Stormin' Norman** · 03-22-2008, 11:30 AM

in the 2nd fight the bodyshot definately is what put him away for good so i agree. He was just overmatched on his 2nd loss.

but you see what im saying though, and hopefully others do as well, losing to Vera, a guy with 1 loss, aint as bad as losing to torrecampo by knockout, a guy with 8 losses.

**Domain** · 03-22-2008, 11:35 AM

The Thing is with the Loss of LEE he was getting hit like crazy, pacmans loss with torrecampo he just got caught, and his other loss he couldn't make weight and from what i see he was hit in the body and his next fight he hopped like 3 divisions to 122 pounds.

With LEE he looked to take vera lightly and the main thing is the kid is under tons of pressure cause his trainer is telling him he is gonna be an ATG.

LEE lost worse then Baby Bull Diaz, Diaz loss wasnt bad at all to be honest he was competitive while Andy lee showed no defense, was getting hit over and over, his footing was loose, his punch wasnt there he looked worse then duddy.

**flem1** · 03-22-2008, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Stormin' Norman

in the 2nd fight the bodyshot definately is what put him away for good so i agree. He was just overmatched on his 2nd loss.

but you see what im saying though, and hopefully others do as well, losing to Vera, a guy with 1 loss, aint as bad as losing to torrecampo by knockout, a guy with 8 losses.

are you a pacman hater?

Vera beating Lee is more respectable than Pacman losing to Torrecampo...