JMM=Bad Decisions Ruin His Career?

[raabd]

wasn't barrera robbed during their fight. that looks more of a complete robbery than the one he had with pacquiao where he got knocked down.

Bad call on the knockdown but JMM landed the better cleaner harder punches throughout the fight and had barrera hurt real bad. If you think barrera won re-watch that fight.

[shadeyfizzle]

Bad call on the knockdown but JMM landed the better cleaner harder punches throughout the fight and had barrera hurt real bad. If you think barrera won re-watch that fight.

I re-watched the fight several times. I dont have any arguments with the scorecards other than had the knockdown counted 2 scorecards would have taken a 3point swing. Going from a 10-9round for marquez to a 10-8round for barrerra essentially changing the tally into a Barrera victory.

[shadeyfizzle]

Bad call on the knockdown but JMM landed the better cleaner harder punches throughout the fight and had barrera hurt real bad. If you think barrera won re-watch that fight.

And also based on the logic you just gave about Marquez landing cleaner harder punches throughout the Barerra fight then you are basically agreeing that Pacquiao Marquez 2 was indeed not robbery because Pacquiao landed the cleaner harder shots throughout the fight

[raabd]

I re-watched the fight several times. I dont have any arguments with the scorecards other than had the knockdown counted 2 scorecards would have taken a 3point swing. Going from a 10-9round for marquez to a 10-8round for barrerra essentially changing the tally into a Barrera victory.

I scored the fight for marquez still counting barrera's knockdown but I took a point away from marco for punching marquez while he was on the floor, so a 9-8 round for marco. I had my own little scorecard but I still gave the fight to marquez. I'm a HUGE barrera fan by the way.

[Chups]

Had it not been for the losses.....JMM would have a perfect record.

[shadeyfizzle]

I scored the fight for marquez still counting barrera's knockdown but I took a point away from marco for punching marquez while he was on the floor, so a 9-8 round for marco. I had my own little scorecard but I still gave the fight to marquez. I'm a HUGE barrera fan by the way.

It doesnt matter what my scorecard or your scorecard was because we have no actual bearing on the outcome of the match. I'm talking about the OFFICIAL scorecards. I agreed even with the margin of victory as a couple of those rounds were difficult to score and could have gone either way but since you brought it up...why take a point away from Barrera for hitting Marquez while he was on the floor when the ref never called a knockdown or a break so in essence they were still fighting.

[raabd]

And also based on the logic you just gave about Marquez landing cleaner harder punches throughout the Barerra fight then you are basically agreeing that Pacquiao Marquez 2 was indeed not robbery because Pacquiao landed the cleaner harder shots throughout the fight

First off i never said nor do I agree that the fight was a robbery. Pac landed harder punches because he hits harder but I don't think he was consistent enough to win the fight. Other than the knockdown and a couple of other solid punches I really didn't see pacquiao do much. Sure pac was aggressive but effective aggressiveness is what counts. JMM also landed hard punches, just as hard as pac(pac wobbled several times), but pac has a hell of a chin where as marquez doesn't so much. In the end I still think JMM landed more and had the more telling blows.

[raabd]

It doesnt matter what my scorecard or your scorecard was because we have no actual bearing on the outcome of the match. I'm talking about the OFFICIAL scorecards. I agreed even with the margin of victory as a couple of those rounds were difficult to score and could have gone either way but since you brought it up...why take a point away from Barrera for hitting Marquez while he was on the floor when the ref never called a knockdown or a break so in essence they were still fighting.

I'm talking about my own personal scorecard and how I had the fight scored. You were the one that brought up the knockdown saying it was 3 pt swing, if you're gonna count the knockdown (on your scorecard) you should count the point deduction. Of course our cards are UNOFFICIAL. That's why these are OUR opinions. At the end of the day JMM is not undefeated.

[DiegoFuego]

I think crying after losing is what is hurting his career. He should fight Guzman

[raabd]

I think crying after losing is what is hurting his career. He should fight Guzman

Hell yeah. Two great skilled boxers like that would be great. I wouldn't know who to go with.