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    Joan Guzman Vs Juan Manuel Marquez

    since most of the fans think that guzman has all the tools to beat pacquiao since he is a counter puncher why not have him fight marquez and let's all see what he has really got against top fighters in the feather weight division. everyone is calling pac that he only preys on the weak. ok name young fighters on that division who has the caliber to beat pac and let them challenge marquez first. right now it's pac who is number 1 let them challenge the number 2 for now. let's all see what will happen.

    but i guess nothing would happen. since we all know no one can beat pac anyway. but i am looking forward to watch this so called young hungry fighters fight each other first or fight marquez before stepping up to pacquiao's plate.
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    Styles make fights, Guzman has the style to frustrate and beat Pacquiao.

    A Guzman vs Marquez fight would be interesting but could become a boring fight if both of them decide to be counterpunchers.

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      #3
      Originally posted by silencers98
      Styles make fights, Guzman has the style to frustrate and beat Pacquiao.

      A Guzman vs Marquez fight would be interesting but could become a boring fight if both of them decide to be counterpunchers.
      but just one question who is the better counter puncher? marquez or guzman?

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        but just one question who is the better counter puncher? marquez or guzman?
        Marquez is probably the better counterpuncher but Guzman is faster, lighter on his feet and is a good counterpuncher himself with good timing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by silencers98
          Styles make fights, Guzman has the style to frustrate and beat Pacquiao.

          A Guzman vs Marquez fight would be interesting but could become a boring fight if both of them decide to be counterpunchers.
          Styles makes fights.

          But Pac has proven he can overcome styles with the tools that he has.

          Didn't he just beat the last of the Mexican elites?

          If you consider it Barrera, Marquez and the Great Morales are all boxer-punchers with near-perfect fundamentals.

          Any lesser fighter would have been beaten soundly or knocked out by any of these 3 yet Pac beat them all.

          Guzman should make a name for himself. He wants Pac then he must fight the best like what pac has done.

          A guzman-jmm fight would be interesting.

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            #6
            Originally posted by JoartCC
            Styles makes fights.

            But Pac has proven he can overcome styles with the tools that he has.

            Didn't he just beat the last of the Mexican elites?

            If you consider it Barrera, Marquez and the Great Morales are all boxer-punchers with near-perfect fundamentals.

            Any lesser fighter would have been beaten soundly or knocked out by any of these 3 yet Pac beat them all.

            Guzman should make a name for himself. He wants Pac then he must fight the best like what pac has done.

            A guzman-jmm fight would be interesting.
            Pacquiao does have good tools but he can be beaten by a fast fighter with good timing. Guzman is faster than Marquez and has good timing and loves to move, Guzman has the tools to beat Pacquiao.

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              #7
              Originally posted by silencers98
              Pacquiao does have good tools but he can be beaten by a fast fighter with good timing. Guzman is faster than Marquez and has good timing and loves to move, Guzman has the tools to beat Pacquiao.
              Maybe.

              But just in case.

              You do realize that the only type of boxer which can beat Pac in his prime right now is only one type of a boxer.

              Fast, a countepuncher, and most of all A VERY POWERFUL HITTER.

              Guzman is fast.
              Counterpuncher.. yes.

              Powerful? Wait a minute.

              But the bottomline, Guzman wants Pac, then do what Pac has done. Fight the best. Barrera didnt want any part of Pac but Pac made himself a mandatory for MAB. Same goes for JMM when he ran out of a career payday and opted for CJ.

              Guzman needs to step up and create a buzz for himself.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JoartCC
                Maybe.

                But just in case.

                You do realize that the only type of boxer which can beat Pac in his prime right now is only one type of a boxer.

                Fast, a countepuncher, and most of all A VERY POWERFUL HITTER.

                Guzman is fast.
                Counterpuncher.. yes.

                Powerful? Wait a minute.

                But the bottomline, Guzman wants Pac, then do what Pac has done. Fight the best. Barrera didnt want any part of Pac but Pac made himself a mandatory for MAB. Same goes for JMM when he ran out of a career payday and opted for CJ.

                Guzman needs to step up and create a buzz for himself.
                You don't have to be a very powerful puncher to beat Pacquiao, the most important thing a fighter needs to beat him is timing and speed. Guzman's power is not great but he isn't feather fisted either.

                It wasn't JMM's fault he didn't get the rematch with Pacquiao, blame it on Beristain. I agree with the rest.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by silencers98
                  You don't have to be a very powerful puncher to beat Pacquiao, the most important thing a fighter needs to beat him is timing and speed. Guzman's power is not great but he isn't feather fisted either.

                  It wasn't JMM's fault he didn't get the rematch with Pacquiao, blame it on Beristain. I agree with the rest.
                  but the thing is JMM had a very hard time because of manny's defense.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by
                    but just one question who is the better counter puncher? marquez or guzman?
                    follow up question who has carried better power at 130 marquez or guzman??

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