Just Rewatched "Unfinished Business"

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He played ***** and tried to counter all night.

so you HONESTLY believe Marquez fought like a ***** last night?

[-Swizzy-]

anyone who scores rounds 1 and 11 to pac is far from nuetral. as a matter of fact it shows blatant bias and this is why.

pac stans score round 1 to pac because according to them, "he landed more shots" but everyone agrees marquez landed the more effective punches. but when the punch stat numbers come out, according to pac stans, even though Marquez landed more shots, Pac won because he landed the more effective punches.

which one is it then?

round 11 could've gone either way but round 1 is pacquaio's. I haven't seen the punch stats yet nor do I care to cuz those are rarely ever accurate but it just seems pacquaio landed more shots in that round. and as I've posted this before many times, the 2 fighters are very evenly matched so no matter what the decision would've been wheather pacmans, jmm's or draw, its all good IMO.

[-Swizzy-]

I know you didn't. I just threw my analysis' into there because that's what Marquez did all night - counter punch. He got 1 or 2 good shots in the first Round. All night he was hesitant. What happened to him being more offensive minded like boxing analysts were saying and expecting? He played ***** and tried to counter all night.

I was with you in this thread until you wrote that. Marquez faught a great tactical fight. the only way a person of his physical demensions could've fought a person like pacquaio. I think marquez is far from a ***** considering how he kept his composure after the KD and especially in the first fight. a real ***** would've let those KD's get to him and probably would've gotten ko'd.

[Mr. Ryan]

SO you're saying ROund 1 is definately JMM's?. If you think so then you're as BIAS as those you're accusing.

I don't know how you score round 1 for JMM when Pacquiao doubled him in power connects.

[Mad Classic]

Let me clarify and elaborate. When I say Marquez played *****, I am referring to him staying back, moving back, not letting go of his hands, not jabbing for ****, not putting any pressure on Manny. He would wait and wait, trying to lure Pacquiao into a counter. Pacquiao showed mad heart by applying steady pressure the WHOLE fight. That's how you fight.

Yes, I understand the beauty of being technical and counter punching, it's just not exciting for me and doesn't do enough to win the fight. Where is the offensive minded Marquez we've been hyped and promised? It was nowhere to be found lastnight. He could have won the fight, by jabbing more and going on the offensive more. He has himself to blame. I just watched the post fight conference and dude showed no class by walking off like that and saying that ****.

[-Swizzy-]

Let me clarify and elaborate. When I say Marquez played *****, I am referring to him staying back, moving back, not letting go of his hands, not jabbing for ****, not putting any pressure on Manny. He would wait and wait, trying to lure Pacquiao into a counter. Pacquiao showed mad heart by applying steady pressure the WHOLE fight. That's how you fight.

Yes, I understand the beauty of being technical and counter punching, it's just not exciting for me and doesn't do enough to win the fight. Where is the offensive minded Marquez we've been hyped and promised? It was nowhere to be found lastnight. He could have won the fight, by jabbing more and going on the offensive more. He has himself to blame. I just watched the post fight conference and dude showed no class by walking off like that and saying that ****.

well, you are not a true boxing fan than. you are missing out on about 70% of the entertainment in the sport if you don't enjoy the boxing side of boxing. pacman has improved the boxing side of his game but he is still very much a brawler and #1 rule is that you box a brawler and that is what marquez did. its just that pacman might've out brawled marquez's boxing. but next time marquez might out box pacman's brawling. that is the beauty of the game.

[Tobi.G]

I have it 114:113 for Pacquiao