Quintana Ready To Halt Margarito's Plan

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Badly...Now why people think just because Q beat Paul...means he beat Marg is ******.Styles makes fight...Margo steam rolls Quitana.

Agreed.

It's also good to point out that Williams didn't fight like his normal self against Quintana, and fought at an insane pace against Tony.



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[-Hyperion-]

wuintana is a bad styel for margarito but liek i said in another thread, hes not durable at all....even partial shots from margarito will wear him down....\

margarito stops him inside 10...

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K and everyone is talking about how great Cintron is now, lol.

He struggled dearly against Feliciano. Tony fought a Black version of Feliciano and got him out of there before the bell to the first round ended.



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[Guest]

I really don't understand where all this fanboyism towards Margarito comes from. He's good, but by no means great. he's got 5 losses and turned down fights that would have put him on the big leagues, yet, for some reason, you think he deserves a chance at a title? I've read so many threads about him it makes me laugh. Some people have even said: It's not who he has beaten, is who he will beat...lol Wow, just wow. Here's what I don't understand from you fanboys: You say that Margo already destroyed Kermit...and therefore, will do it again. By that same token, If Williams already beat Margo, and by a good margin at that...then if there was a rematch Williams would win...But of course the Margo Fanboys would say NOOOO. Why can't Kermit come back and whoop Margo? I'm not going to say that Quintana would whoop up on him either, I mean, let's be real. But Cotto? What in the blue hell makes you guys think he's in the same league as Cotto? Let alone KO Cotto. Like a previous poster said: the only reason he's getting a shot is because Kermit wants a rematch. He had his chances. Lost, turned down, whatever. Shut up and stop crying about a shot. I doubt he will get past Kermit, but if he does...good bye Margo. Open yer eyes fanboys...It's just common sense. Cotto will destroy him and hopefully, we can get past this ridiculous "feared welter" bullcrap. We all know what happened to the last one.....

The man has fans because he is willing to fight the best and he has concussive knockout power. While we have a champion in the welterweight division afraid to fight the #1 contender and who's only beaten one top 10 welterweight in his career, we have a guy like Margarito to look up to as he's willing to fight anyone they put in front of him. He took a fight with Williams when everyone and his mother was telling him to go straight for Cotto because Williams is too dangerous. Not he's going to beat and batter Cintron again to get to Cotto, a man Mayweather would never fight in a million years.

[Guest]

I agree with both of you. Like I said before I hope this guy gets taken care of soon cuz I'm tired of him talking as if he's the best in the division. He was exposed by Clottey until Clottey hurt his hand in the fight and he lost to P. Williams who Quintana beat. Margarito is nothing special... Over hyped journeyman at best.

Why do you guys continue to spew **** like this when Floyd Mayweather turned down a career high payday not fight this man? He obviously sees something in Margarito that you guys don't, because you'd have to be a fool not to take $8 million dollars for easy work.

[MaFu MoFo]

Agreed.

It's also good to point out that Williams didn't fight like his normal self against Quintana, and fought at an insane pace against Tony.

K and everyone is talking about how great Cintron is now, lol.

He struggled dearly against Feliciano. Tony fought a Black version of Feliciano and got him out of there before the bell to the first round ended.

Dude, that's all opinions. History is already written. Take out all excuses and here are the facts...

1) Tony did not defeated Santos in 2 chances.
2) Tony humiliated kermit years ago.
3) Tony got schooled by PW.
4) PW got schooled by Quintana.
5) Tony beated Clottey.

Opinions will come and go and I had share mine in threads I started about the WW Division. But anyway, I gave you 5 facts, let me copy and paste my 5 OPINIONS...

FINALLY the story line I had been looking for in the last couple of days. Tony DID HAD the chance to pick between Quintana and Cintron for a window period of "5 days". It means Tony verbally agreed to fight Kermit, but not sign. Tony seems to be a smart guy. He wanted to fight Williams again and waited until the shocking results. Too bad.


Since some of you are talking about plain and basic common sense, I will give you what you want, THE FACTS.

1. Margarito has a tittle shot because Cintron WANTS REVENGE, not because he earned it. Cotto, PBF and Williams were not going to fight him. After losing to PW, Tony's chance agaisnt Cotto vanished. Tony is lucky Kermit wants revenge.

2. Quintana is not better than Margarito and Cintron, BUT has an advantage over them in been southpaw. If Tony could not beat Santos in two fights, I imagine Quintana outboxing him for a UD win. The worst case is Kermit's, who has never faced a southpaw before. Main reason he was in no hurry to fight PW.

3. Cotto is the best WW in the division. He already beated Quintana, and if he stays focus he could beat Cintron and Margarito any given Saturday. Any of them will give Cotto a hard fight due to size and power difference. Still I see Cotto winnning by eighter KO or UD.

4. Margarito and Cintron fight is the one with most significance in the WW Division. The loser will go off the big PPV radar. Until then, all our posts are just more internet boxing ****.

5. Also forgot to mention Tony was supposed to fight Judah, but Judah could not keep his cool. That would had been a hell of a fight for two boxers desperately needing a win to get back in the big picture of PPV Money.

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1) Tony did not defeated Santos in 2 chances.

Yes. But anyone with eyes could see he was winning the second fight at the time of the stoppage. The first fight ended so abruptly it isn't worth discussing.

2) Tony humiliated kermit years ago.

Fact.

3) Tony got schooled by PW.

If by schooled you meant out busied in the early rounds and by schooling you meant fading late in the fight........still throwing 1300 punches, then yes. Williams was Schooling. But it also doesn't take a genius to figure out that Margarito (who was well off his normal output range) wasn't having a great night.

4) PW got schooled by Quintana.

Yes that was schooling. Quintana rode by on a bicycle and was slapping Williams on the side of the face while he looked around like a jackass......not knowing who hit him.

5) Tony beated Clottey.

Yes after receiving a pretty good boxing onslaught from Clottey early.

And Clottey is a good fighter.



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[MaFu MoFo]

Yes. But anyone with eyes could see he was winning the second fight at the time of the stoppage. The first fight ended so abruptly it isn't worth discussing.

If by schooled you meant out busied in the early rounds and by schooling you meant fading late in the fight........still throwing 1300 punches, then yes. Williams was Schooling. But it also doesn't take a genius to figure out that Margarito (who was well off his normal output range) wasn't having a great night.

Yes that was schooling. Quintana rode by on a bicycle and was slapping Williams on the side of the face while he looked around like a jackass......not knowing who hit him.

Why is it so hard for Margarito Groupies to accept facts. That's why is hard to intelligently argue with you guys.

For example, my favorite fighter is Kermit Cintron. Read the words I chose to write the FACT. KERMIT GOT HUMILIATED. I don't need to put up excuses. He was not ready and got what he deserved for it. Same goes out to Margarito. PW called his sorry ass for a while and had to earned a "mando" in order to get a chance to fight Margarito. Margarito is not ******, he knew PW will give him problems. Forget the punches thrown. NOT A VALID EXCUSE. Don't even bother to mention again that Tony did not warmed up until half of the fight. THAT IS WHO"S FAULT... NOT PW's. Reality is that Tony has problem with southpaw boxers. Tony was not able to overcome PW style and GOT SCHOOLED, PERIOD. Quintana found a way to beat PW that Tony could not.

Unless you got more excuses to post, I rest my case.

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Why is it so hard for Margarito Groupies to accept facts. That's why is hard to intelligently argue with you guys.

For example, my favorite fighter is Kermit Cintron. Read the words I chose to write the FACT. KERMIT GOT HUMILIATED. I don't need to put up excuses. He was not ready and got what he deserved for it. Same goes out to Margarito. PW called his sorry ass for a while and had to earned a "mando" in order to get a chance to fight Margarito. Margarito is not ******, he knew PW will give him problems. Forget the punches thrown. NOT A VALID EXCUSE. Don't even bother to mention again that Tony did not warmed up until half of the fight. THAT IS WHO"S FAULT... NOT PW's. Reality is that Tony has problem with southpaw boxers. Tony was not able to overcome PW style and GOT SCHOOLED, PERIOD. Quintana found a way to beat PW that Tony could not.

Unless you got more excuses to post, I rest my case.

In your mind, everyone is making excuses. Nobody is.

I'm pointing out facts.

Fact: Quintana fought a good fight like he normally does......yet still showed severe imperfections defensively. It was Williams who was more to blame for losing to Quintana........than it was Quintana beating Williams outright. Simply because Williams was the one who rushed in, and smothered his punches. He spend 90% of the rest of the fight following Quintana around instead of cutting off the ring. When he did get close yes, Quintana landed the combinations. Primarily because once again.......Williams was uncharacteristically attacking on the inside (he's not known as a pressure fighter......more a volume puncher who stays at punching distance) and left himself wide open for shots he's not accustomed to taking.

So once again. Comparing the lethargic/seemingly disoriented Williams who followed Quintana around getting pot-shotted............to the Williams who threw 1300 punches and stood up to Tony's attack late in the fight, firing back in exchanges and catching the judges eye:

Is ******.

My problem lied with you drawing decisive conclusions about both Williams and Margarito based on their respective fights with each other........as well as Quintana.



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[MaFu MoFo]

In your mind, everyone is making excuses. Nobody is.

I'm pointing out facts.

Fact: Quintana fought a good fight like he normally does......yet still showed severe imperfections defensively. It was Williams who was more to blame for losing to Quintana........than it was Quintana beating Williams outright. Simply because Williams was the one who rushed in, and smothered his punches. He spend 90% of the rest of the fight following Quintana around instead of cutting off the ring. When he did get close yes, Quintana landed the combinations. Primarily because once again.......Williams was uncharacteristically attacking on the inside (he's not known as a pressure fighter......more a volume puncher who stays at punching distance) and left himself wide open for shots he's not accustomed to taking.

So once again. Comparing the lethargic/seemingly disoriented Williams who followed Quintana around getting pot-shotted............to the Williams who threw 1300 punches and stood up to Tony's attack late in the fight, firing back in exchanges and catching the judges eye:

Is ******.

My problem lied with you drawing decisive conclusions about both Williams and Margarito based on their respective fights with each other........as well as Quintana.

In BOLD, the facts. 1) Quintana beated PW. 2) Quintana had a plan that worked, Tony didn't. You said Quintana used a bycicle, I say Tony spent the fight as an easy target for PW. Who won?? 3) Quintana continiously landed combos and hard right punches.


In RED, the opinion. PW threw 1,300 punches because Tony was right in front of PW as a good target to receive them. Duh! He could had thrown 1,500 of them. Tony stood up and took a ***** slapping while PW got the points. And Tony's attack in the later round was under instruction of his corner cause they knew he was losing and looking awfuly bad agaisnt PW.

No matter what Tony's Groupies come out to excuse their beloved hero, Paul Williams owned Tony and will beat him any given Saturday. That simple.