Calzaghe isnt even the best opponent Hopkins has faced....

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  • squealpiggy
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    #11
    Originally posted by SekondzOut
    soundz honest to me! but if you ask JT, Tarver, DLH, or Winky if they felt like they were in the ring with an OLD fighter when they fought Hopkins, the answer would be NO! Joe will say the same thing! Bernard doesnt get tired and thatz what got him the win against Winky! Bernard was something like 16 years older than JT when they fought, so I guess that counts for nothing! Calz is OLD in boxing years, get it straight! Anybody still boxing past 35 is considered OLD in boxing!
    It's very difficult to get tired when you only throw five punches per round.

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    • RichCCFC
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      #12
      Joe Calzaghe would have beaten that green Roy Jones who beat Hopkins all those years ago.

      Prime for prime is another subject though.

      I think Calzaghe is the best fighter Hopkins has ever fought.

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      • Clegg
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        #13
        First would be RJJ. I'm not sure that you can compare Trinidad or de la Hoya to Calzaghe because both would be too small against him. Calzaghe is better than Taylor in my opinion.

        Originally posted by SekondzOut
        Bernard doesnt get tired
        That's not because he has great stamina, it's because he is excellent at using the energy that he has in the right way.

        I'd also say that Calzaghe does have great stamina. There's no one in the higher weight divisions that throws as many punches as him and does it for all 12 rounds.
        Last edited by Clegg; 03-11-2008, 06:46 AM.

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        • Mr. Philadel
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          #14
          Originally posted by squealpiggy
          It's very difficult to get tired when you only throw five punches per round.
          i knew that was coming!!!!

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          • Jolly Roger
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            #15
            Originally posted by aRmAgeDDoN
            but Hopkins is the best opponent Calzaghe will fight. hes not fighting in his backyard, 1st time in the usa, and has to move up in weight. if hopkins didnt get outpointed by jermaine taylor twice no one would even give calzaghe a chance. o yea im not trying to say calzaghe isnt good or the best at his division, but i cant see him beating hopkins by outworking him like many believe.
            I disagree, i still think Kessler will have been Joes biggest challenge. He was the young, hungry lion that was supposed replace Joe. Technically good, hard hitting, fast, strong as an ox, and Joe beat him. I don't see the location of the fight and the weight as an issue for Joe, most of the crowd will be rooting for him and what is 7 more pounds to him? Nothing really. The end result may be similar to the Kessler fight, but i don't think he will have to really dig deep again and i don't think he will get his chin tested.

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            • Chunk..
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              #16
              A prime RJJ would have beaten Calzaghe soundly IMO, hell even the RJJ we see today would give Calzaghe problems.

              This fight better happen before Joe calls it quits.

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              • pins0099
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                #17
                Originally posted by aRmAgeDDoN
                but Hopkins is the best opponent Calzaghe will fight. hes not fighting in his backyard, 1st time in the usa, and has to move up in weight. if hopkins didnt get outpointed by jermaine taylor twice no one would even give calzaghe a chance. o yea im not trying to say calzaghe isnt good or the best at his division, but i cant see him beating hopkins by outworking him like many believe.
                You mean, your average yank wouldn't have given him a chance. Boxing afficiando's would have given him every chance, ask Sugar Ray Leonard where he putting his money.

                Why not, since when did outworking somebody NOT put you in an imesuarably better position to win the fight. Pavlik - JT II for instance, JT caught Pavlik with some ace counter shots, looked confident and like he had some power and snap in his punches for a change, but Pavlik outworked him all night long, got him blowing and tired, slowed him up......and, oh yes won a UD. I see the fight going very similar to that one apart from Hops not catchin Calz with as many couter rights.

                At the pace Calz fights, I predict Hops's unquestionably excellent defense will fall apart in the later rounds, hopefully Calz is not too worried about his hands to try and get Hops out of there.

                Of course then when he beats him all of this talk of Hopkins excellent record will be down the pan and of course they'll all be a bunch of bums and Calz wont have proved anything.

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                • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _Ricky_
                  Joe Calzaghe would have beaten that green Roy Jones who beat Hopkins all those years ago.

                  Prime for prime is another subject though.

                  I think Calzaghe is the best fighter Hopkins has ever fought.
                  I understand you are from Wales but Calzaghe doesn't beat RJJ in his prime, no way no how. RJJ was one of the most naturaly talented fighter's I have ever seen. He was a combination of power and speed that is rarely seen in boxing.

                  I respect Calzaghe for being a tough fighter and a volume puncher but he's in a perfect era of boxing where he never had to face a prime RJJ, Hopkins or Toney.........

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                  • The Critic
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                    #19
                    Roy JOnes is the best fighter Hopkins has faced, Calzaghe is second.

                    Hopkins is NOT the best fighter Joe has faced, he comes in about fourth

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                    • RichCCFC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                      I understand you are from Wales but Calzaghe doesn't beat RJJ in his prime, no way no how. RJJ was one of the most naturaly talented fighter's I have ever seen. He was a combination of power and speed that is rarely seen in boxing.

                      I respect Calzaghe for being a tough fighter and a volume puncher but he's in a perfect era of boxing where he never had to face a prime RJJ, Hopkins or Toney.........
                      I said the Calzaghe of today would have beaten that young, green and unfinished Roy Jones that Hopkins fought all those years ago. Roy obviously got better after his fight with Bernard.

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