Should David Haye be considered...

[Run]

one of top 20 p4p boxers? I say yes.

Yes.

Top 10 imo..

Debatable. Definitely not out of the question.

Oh and btw did you happen to catch David Haye smoking Enzo Maccaraneli?



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[Ray*]

See they'll rate Haye for unifying and KOing people.. But Not Wlad..

Is see you still pretty upset about the Wlad thing oh well, Wlad is rated in the top 10 or isnt he? I think Haye deserve to be in the Top 20 at least..You cannot be the linear champion at your weight and dont even get in the top 20that would be plain idiotic.

[squealpiggy]

See they'll rate Haye for unifying and KOing people.. But Not Wlad..

Wlad is facing an uphill struggle to be recognised, partly because there is no linear champion (and unifying one belt doesn't make you the man), partly because it's harder to be recognised pound for pound if you're a heavyweight anyway, especially if you're a big heavyweight like Wladimir (you're usually beating up on much smaller men, how can you be p4p?) and also partly because the heavyweight division has something of a dearth of talent at the moment. Being the man at heavy Isn't worth much. It means that you are better than Samuel Peter and Ruslan Chagaev.

On the other hand if Haye was to move up in weight and dominate bigger men in the heavies then he would certainly be recognised p4p. You would also open the gates for Klitschko to gain recognition by fighting someone with power, with skill and with decent amateur legs underneath him. Also who isn't proper old.

[Welter_Skelter]

Is see you still pretty upset about the Wlad thing oh well, Wlad is rated in the top 10 or isnt he? I think Haye deserve to be in the Top 20 at least..You cannot be the linear champion at your weight and dont even get in the top 20that would be plain idiotic.

I am not upset.. that post was directed at one person only... I agree with your opinion that a Unified champ these days deserves a top 20 ranking on those merits alone.. However as soon as Haye vacates and Goes to HW he drops out of the top 20.. and didn't he say he is OFF to The HW's???

[STEELHEAD]

no way.
he's been able to get away with walking thru and swaggering around with left down against opponents that stand in front of him. he hasnt had to show defense yet. that may change when he moves up.
like to see him him start off with hvwt eddie chambers first. or one of those slow plodding eurotypes.

[evo]

haye got a huge case if handled right got a great chance could beat all current heavy's with the exception of wlad. but with the right nuture would knock out wlad.

[Run]

haye got a huge case if handled right got a great chance could beat all current heavy's with the exception of wlad. but with the right nuture would knock out wlad.

Haye would have a shot to hurt Wlad. But I definitely don't see him beating him until Wlad is past his prime, or other. I mean right now, lol he'd have trouble with the jab and right hand Haye would.



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[Run]

like to see him him start off with hvwt eddie chambers first. or one of those slow plodding eurotypes.

lol he did after all knock out a slow plodding eurotype when he fought at heavyweight though.



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[Left2body]

Does anyone realize that the p4p title and list was invented and is meant for all NON-Heavy Weight fighters. So it pretty much takes Wlad and soon to be Haye who will be fighting his future fights at HW.

The whole premise was for SRR who was not as large as the heavy weights.

[loui_ludwig]

Haye defeated Mormeck and Macaroni. This discussion will be a long one. No, no, no.