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  • #71
    Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
    3. If Cotto goes through Margarito/Cintron and unifies he will be great and beating him will mean much more then just money and satisfiying peoples thirst to see Floyd lose. Right now, that's not the case.
    I'm just going to address this one for now. I agree with you but there is a large chance that with Cotto's style he is going to get wear and tear on his body and start to slip as a fighter. He gets cut quite a bit lately, rocked, dropped in his career a few times, and takes some flush shots. Margarito and Cintron will just add to the damage. Cotto might win but he won't come away unscathed. And if he loses, stylistically Margarito is quite possibly very tough for him so thats a big reason but then Mayweather won't fight him because he lost although he would possibly present a harder fight if he isn't slipping. Would be similar to Ali not fighting Frazier again after Foreman destroyed him.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Brockton Lip View Post
      I'm just going to address this one for now. I agree with you but there is a large chance that with Cotto's style he is going to get wear and tear on his body and start to slip as a fighter. .

      Is that Floyd's problem? He has already established himself as a first- ballot hall of famer and an all-time great. He is older then Cotto and being inactive as he is, hurts him as well.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
        Is that Floyd's problem? He has already established himself as a first- ballot hall of famer and an all-time great. He is older then Cotto and being inactive as he is, hurts him as well.
        It is partly his problem if he wants a better legacy. He is a shoe-in for the hall of fame and all time great, although not too high. Beating a prime Cotto would be beneficial for him. He is older than Cotto although I'm not sure his ring age will be. Cotto takes alot more punches.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Brockton Lip View Post
          It is partly his problem if he wants a better legacy. He is a shoe-in for the hall of fame and all time great, although not too high. Beating a prime Cotto would be beneficial for him. He is older than Cotto although I'm not sure his ring age will be. Cotto takes alot more punches.
          I guess Cotto should have taken the fight at 140lb when Floyd's camp offered it to him if Cotto's ring age is a concern.

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          • #75
            Floyd should just retire.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
              I guess Cotto should have taken the fight at 140lb when Floyd's camp offered it to him if Cotto's ring age is a concern.
              Well then he was rather inexperienced. Now hes probably at his best and its possible he'll get even better although after a couple of more fights he may start slipping a bit. It depends on the punishment he takes and how he takes care of himself.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
                I guess Cotto should have taken the fight at 140lb when Floyd's camp offered it to him if Cotto's ring age is a concern.
                they did not offer cotto a fight or call him out that's bonified bull**** stop making **** up.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Brockton Lip View Post
                  Well then he was rather inexperienced. Now hes probably at his best and its possible he'll get even better although after a couple of more fights he may start slipping a bit. It depends on the punishment he takes and how he takes care of himself.
                  So what you're saying is that there is only a small window of oppritunity for Floyd to take this fight and get the best of Cotto or else he won't get any credit? Cotto wasn't ready at 140 and he might not be ready in 09 if he happens to be in any tough fights because his ring age will start showing.


                  I swear the crap thats being put out on these threads is unbelievable. You need to quit babying Cotto like he is some soft egg that's about to crack. Fact is, Cotto is about to fight Gomez. Floyd is out of action until September and it's not out of question that he could lose against Oscar. Still, that leaves Cotto with time to beat Gomez, try to unify titles with the Cintron/Margarito winner and make a stronger case for a fight against Floyd in 09 if both of them come out victorious this year.

                  That's all there is to it........plain and simple
                  Last edited by Vladimir303; 03-05-2008, 11:23 PM.

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                  • #79
                    I think that it's mostly strategy. Floyd beating Oscar again makes him more marketable. He takes a little bit of Oscar's equity, making him more marque. Moreso than if he fights and beats Cotto. Secondly he makes more money fighting Oscar than fighting Cotto right now. Moreover if he fights Cotto now it wouldn't be as big as it would be down the road and there wouldn't be anything left for him.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
                      So what you're saying is that there is only a small window of oppritunity for Floyd to take this fight and get the best of Cotto or else he won't get any credit? Cotto wasn't ready at 140 and he might not be ready in 09 if he happens to be in any tough fights because his ring age will start showing.

                      I swear the crap thats being put out on these threads is unbelievable. You need to babying Cotto like he is some soft egg that's about to crack. Fact is, Cotto is about to fight Gomez. Floyd is out of action until September and it's not out of question that he could lose against Oscar. Still, that leaves Cotto with time to beat Gomez, try to unify titles with the Cintron/Margarito winner and make a stronger case for a fight against Floyd in 09 if both of them come out victorious this year.

                      That's all there is to it........plain and simple
                      Yes pretty much I am saying that. And I don't know what 'crap' you're talking about. Floyd says hes the greatest, he will be under much criticism for that, and it should be expected. If he wants a better legacy, he needs to fight the best fighters and the best versions of them as well. I'm sure he could call out Ray Leonard right now since Ray's an all time great but it wouldn't mean anything. Fighting a prime Cotto is better for his legacy than fighting an inexperienced or a shot Cotto. Simple truth there. Mayweather fighting so rarely does not help his legacy either, truth there again. Hes the best fighter out there right now but if he wants a better legacy he needs to fight the best fighters and fight them when they're at their best and not shells of what they used to be.

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