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  • MELLY-MEL...
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheManchine
    The reason Witter isn't a draw is because he can't get fights. Not just the Hatton fight but Malignaggi, Torres, D-Hop, etc.

    Hatton got a fight against the champion Kostya Tszyu and that made him popular, Malignaggi's fight against Cotto made him popular even though he lost.

    The only big fight Witter has ever been in is the fight against Zab Judah that he took on a week's notice 8 years ago.

    Since then Witter has been undefeated, become a world champion and beaten some solid opposition but he hasn't gotten any fights with the top 5 light welterweights even though he has called them out.

    For example, Hagler and McCallum weren't draws until the big names DARED to fight them and put their world titles on the line.
    don't sell him to me! i could care less. i am well versed in this sport thanks and you don't have to tell me about witter, and his history. i am well aware of all of it, but AGAIN, i am saying in response to the thread that he is not a draw, and thats why he can not get a date on hbo on his drawing power. i am not sure why you feel the need to justify him, or defend him in this manner! but defending him in this manner, still does not make up for the fact that no one wants to see him fight, which is precisely what this thread, and what i have written is about. now, if you want to play the blame game fine! blame all you want, for the reasons you want, but try blaming witter, for he is the man who has been created by himself. he put himself in this situation. try that instead of blaming everything and everyone else trying to make him look good!
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      #22
      Originally posted by Melly-Mel
      don't sell him to me! i could care less. i am well versed in this sport thanks and you don't have to tell me about witter, and his history. i am well aware of all of it, but AGAIN, i am saying in response to the thread that he is not a draw, and thats why he can not get a date on hbo on his drawing power. i am not sure why you feel the need to justify him, or defend him in this manner! but defending him in this manner, still does not make up for the fact that no one wants to see him fight, which is precisely what this thread, and what i have written is about. now, if you want to play the blame game fine! blame all you want, for the reasons you want, but try blaming witter, for he is the man who has been created by himself. he put himself in this situation. try that instead of blaming everything and everyone else trying to make him look good!
      But how does a fighter get to be a draw if no one is willing to fight him?
      Last edited by Silencers; 02-28-2008, 12:13 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
        The reason he cant get Fights is becasue he isn't a draw.. we could go in circles all night on this one eh??

        I will trust the people in the TV business... Witter isn't a draw.. and that is why no one will fight him..
        This is why it's hard to call boxing even a 'sport' these days.
        Witter, a WBC world titleholder and a top ranked light welterweight, can't get fights with other top light welterweights because he can't draw as well as say...eh, I don't even know.

        Malignaggi?
        He might be the only one who 'draws' more than Witter in the light welterweight division aside from Hatton of course.

        i am well aware of all of it, but AGAIN, i am saying in response to the thread that he is not a draw, and thats why he can not get a date on hbo on his drawing power. i am not sure why you feel the need to justify him, or defend him in this manner! but defending him in this manner, still does not make up for the fact that no one wants to see him fight, which is precisely what this thread, and what i ave written is about. blame all you want, for the reasons you want, but try blaming witter for he is the man who created himself, and put himself in this situation instead of blaming everything else trying to make him look good!
        This situation is very common in boxing, a talented fighter can't get fights because he can't 'draw'. This is what I dislike in boxing and I'm not afraid to speak about it.

        It is just my opinion.
        If you want to play a businessman then whatever suits you... but just realize that if it wasn't for certain top fighters having the balls to fight those unknown but talented fighters, you probably wouldn't have guys like Pavlik, Calzaghe, Hagler, etc. listed among your favorites.

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          #24
          Originally posted by silencers98
          But how does a fighter get to be a draw is no one is willing to fight him?
          come on, you make your name early on! this is not something he can just try to do as of now, and overnight! all the big names started young, and built up their names as they went along to what they became at the height of their careers! odlh, pbf, ali, tyson, rjj, all of them!

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            #25
            Originally posted by Melly-Mel
            come on, you make your name early on! this is not something he can just try to do as of now, and overnight! all the big names started young, and built up their names as they went along to what they became at the height of their careers! odlh, pbf, ali, tyson, rjj, all of them!
            Hagler didn't make a name for himself until he got his break against Antuofermo and he wasn't a big draw until he fought Hearns.

            Witter needs his break to become a draw, all fighters need that break at one time or another in their careers.

            Don't misinterpret this as comparing them as fighters.

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              #26
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              This is why it's hard to call boxing even a 'sport' these days.
              Witter, a WBC world titleholder and a top ranked light welterweight, can't get fights with other top light welterweights because he can't draw as well as say...eh, I don't even know.

              Malignaggi?
              He might be the only one who 'draws' more than Witter in the light welterweight division aside from Hatton of course.



              This situation is very common in boxing, a talented fighter can't get fights because he can't 'draw'. This is what I dislike in boxing and I'm not afraid to speak about it.

              It is just my opinion.
              If you want to play a businessman then whatever suits you... but just realize that if it wasn't for certain top fighters having the balls to fight those unknown but talented fighters, you probably wouldn't have guys like Pavlik, Calzaghe, Hagler, etc. listed among your favorites.
              all very true, i agree completely.

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              • MELLY-MEL...
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                #27
                Originally posted by silencers98
                Hagler didn't make a name for himself until he got his break against Antuofermo and he wasn't a big draw until he fought Hearns.

                Witter needs his break to become a draw, all fighters need that break at one time or another in their careers.

                Don't misinterpret this as comparing them as fighters.

                And you know what the guys you listed have in common? They all won medals in the Olympics and returned as stars already, not everyone can win medals in the Olympics.
                ok well maybe he had his break and blew it than! he had only 9 days i know to prepare for zab, but even in a loss he fought a very safe, running away type fight imo. perhaps that turned fans off, and if he had been more exciting, and gave a better showing that he would have developed into a known name, even in defeat? i dunno, but if you get a shot like this and don't seize it, you may never get a shot again! people can come and defend him all they want, but this was a big shot, and he was not ultra impressive to people, and they will remember him, and mark him for this regardless of the circumstances, or how long ago, or how much better he is now! food for thought!

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                  #28
                  Witter should quite acting like a ***** and fight Ajose Olusegun.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Melly-Mel
                    ok well maybe he had his break and blew it than! he had only 9 days i know to prepare for zab, but even in a loss he fought a very safe, running away type fight imo. perhaps that turned fans off, and if he had been more exciting, and gave a better showing that he would have developed into a known name, even in defeat? i dunno, but if you get a shot like this and don't seize it, you may never get a shot again! people can come and defend him all they want, but this was a big shot, and he was not ultra impressive to people, and they will remember him, and mark him for this regardless of the circumstances, or how long ago, or how much better he is now! food for thought!
                    I disagree, people will not remember for his loss to Judah because they will see he has pulled out respectable wins against respectable opposition since that time, besides, accepting a fight against Judah on 9 days notice is not considered your big break, it's considered throwing him in against a top level fighter at the time and expecting him to lose.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by silencers98
                      I disagree, people will not remember for his loss to Judah because they will see he has pulled out respectable wins against respectable opposition since that time, besides, accepting a fight against Judah on 9 days notice is not considered your big break, it's considered throwing him in against a top level fighter at the time and expecting him to lose.
                      ok, disagree! but say he would have won the fight! than what? if he would have went on and been ultra sucessful you wouldn't complaing about that though would you? getting a break is not always something that is gonna be advantageous, and in your benefit. you have to rise to the occasion and seize the oppprtunity, making the most of the chance you got! gimme a break, it takes hard work, and persistance to make it. you don't put limits, or make excuses. you go hard, and earn your stripes. your arguement is full of excuses, and weak. a shot against zab at the time was huge, and regardless of what you think it was important to his career!
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