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  • wmute
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ironside
    Also, when he said Floyd is the best in the world, but that's not saying much by today's standards? the WW division IMO is one of the toughest, if not the toughest of all time with all the competition it has.
    There has been a short time where the welters had Leonard, Hearns, and Duran.

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    • warp1432
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      #12
      "Boxing isn't what is used to be blah blah blah"

      He's a great writer, but this interview was terrible. I don't care if he thinks Wlad is horrible, but he rarely seems to have any knowledge of the sport today.

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      • Scott9945
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        #13
        Originally posted by warp1432
        "Boxing isn't what is used to be blah blah blah"

        He's a great writer, but this interview was terrible. I don't care if he thinks Wlad is horrible, but he rarely seems to have any knowledge of the sport today.

        I don't respect "experts" that are stuck living in the past. Being a professional should require you to stay open minded with what is current as well as being respectful of the past. Sugar seems to be relying on his tired old stories and his corny one liners instead of objective analysis.

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        • ferocity
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          #14
          Originally posted by Scott9945
          I don't respect "experts" that are stuck living in the past. Being a professional should require you to stay open minded with what is current as well as being respectful of the past. Sugar seems to be relying on his tired old stories and his corny one liners instead of objective analysis.
          I think with out guys like Bert Sugar, the past gets forgotten.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ferocity
            I think with out guys like Bert Sugar, the past gets forgotten.

            That is a valid point, but it's also important that he has credibility by not crapping on everything in boxing now. He's not doing the sport any favors by saying everything happening in boxing currently is ****.
            Last edited by Scott9945; 02-27-2008, 08:43 PM.

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            • PBDS
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              #16
              .....I love how Wlady gets gang ****d for one boring fight. I can think of lots of guys who have made a whole career out of **** boring fights. Wlad's future opponents will all pay a steep price for the **** talked about him in the Sultan fight.

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              • LondonRingRules
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                #17
                Originally posted by Scott9945
                Sugar seems to be relying on his tired old stories and his corny one liners instead of objective analysis.
                ** Bert a favorite tired old punching bag.

                Of course he runs tight with the NY centric boxing establishment and all his old running buddies a bunch of good ol' boy, ol' salt NYC/Jersey city boys. Hell, it's made him a good living and put him in the HOF, so there it is.

                Interesting how he's made it, but the guy people associate as the voice of the 60s-80s, Howie Cosell is ignored. Didn't really know much about boxing, but sure made a broadcast dramatic. Down goes Frazier could almost be copyrighted it's such a signature and surely the consensus is that simply no other interviewer would do for Ali but Cosell if you had to pick.

                Going back in time with the trouble prime Ali had against lefty Mildenberger, I suggest that prime Ali would be struggling bigtime if he had to face the likes of Sultan, Moorer, and Sanders at their bests. Does anyone even suggest that Wlad would even have a nanosecond's worth of trouble against Mildenberger, who was a pretty decent boxer and one of prime Ali's better opponents?

                It's a new era in boxing for better and worse. Some good fights back when, but most of those fighters would have to relearn strategy and probably add more than a few lbs to be successful under today's conditions.

                Cheerio now Bert, you're In Like Flint. But Damn, please, if you're gonna wave that cigar around, LIGHT IT UP and smoke than damn thing or at least poke it somewhere. C'mon now, man up!
                Last edited by LondonRingRules; 02-27-2008, 08:41 PM.

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                • WLAD OWNS
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                  #18
                  Who gives a flying **** what that old ****sucker thinks...Bert Sugar is an opinionated **** and he is prejudiced against European fighters...How old is that ****sucker anyway?? He should be dead by now.
                  Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 02-27-2008, 09:38 PM.

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                  • GunStar
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                    #19
                    Was the fight one of the worst championship boxing fights in history..Yes

                    Was it the worst championship fight in history..No, it was one of the worst but I've seen many, just as bad.

                    Is boxing today bad, No..Sorry Bert this is where I always have disagreed with your opinion, it's a different era with different fighters.

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                    • GunStar
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                      Who gives a flying **** what that old ****sucker thinks...Bert Sugar is an opinionated **** and he is predjudiced against European fighters...How old is that ****sucker anyway?? He should be dead by now.
                      It's prejudiced, I'm a little disappointed that you can't even spell your favorite word.

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