If Wladimir was American and black, would he be more accepted as a top heavyweight?

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  • Korega
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    #121
    Black........American.

    If he was Black, it wouldn't make a lick of a difference. But if he was "Black & American". Probably. The "American" part will propel him to superstar status. Just being black didn't earn you **** in the last century...it sure as hell won't in this century...Unless you bring something to the table...lol

    Prime Example: Joshua Clottey, Edison Miranda compared to Floyd Mayweather, even Zab Judah. And Clottey is a way better fighter that Judah (Judah is a good fighter too). But the point is being American is often a good thing. We know how to "love" and "sell" our own. The irony is we could care less about the poor bastard if he has no skills.....We Americans, i'm proud to say, are a fickle nation. As someone prev said...Glory huggers, However there are a few independent-minded thinkers among us who could appreciate Clottey and the likes.

    Besides, we wants to root for a ruthless German, or a soul-less Dane. Did you ever watch Rocky 4.

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    • DIB42
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      #122
      I don't think you can blame Wlad that the heavyweight division just sucks so bad right now. Its not about race, all he can do it fight the best of whoever is out there and eventually prove himself ala Lennox Lewis. This era of heavyweight is just boring.

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      • KostyaTszyu44
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        #123
        Originally posted by ~Tunney
        Most of Wlad's fights have been exciting for me.

        The Ibragimov fight was rather dull, but Ibragimov vs. Briggs was worse. Sultan uses feints a lot, and that and his awkward southpaw style confuses his opponents. Holyfield said after his fight with Sultan last October that he has a confusing style, and that's why he threw far fewer punches than usual.
        the tony thompson fight was a load of ****, i fell asleep numerous times and woke up just in time to see the lackluster KO

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        • ippo
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          #124
          Well of course being black helps when you are a athlete here in the U.S.Most of the big stars are black.But don't worry if waldimir continues to do good he will be remembered.

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          • cueball66
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            #125
            i dont think being white has anything to do with it! lennox lewis was critisised for years(& still is for some reason) despite beating holyfield(twice imo)ruddock,bruno,tyson,klitscho,botha,briggs,merc er,mcall,rahman & everyone else(bowe shamefully ducked him!)
            jst cos he aint american!
            some (american)people even rank holyfield as a better atg than lewis!!! LMFAO!!!
            Last edited by cueball66; 01-23-2009, 09:01 PM.

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            • Gopgop
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              #126
              sadly its true...i would ride his wave mad hard! no ****!

              his boringness would just be tactical and picking his punches LOLZ

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              • The Hammer
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                #127
                Originally posted by ippo
                Well of course being black helps when you are a athlete here in the U.S. Most of the big stars are black. But don't worry if waldimir continues to do good he will be remembered.
                I hope so...

                Some people in the US media do seem to prefer black athletes - Max Kellerman, who hates the Klitschkos, being a perfect example.

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                • KostyaTszyu44
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by ~Tunney
                  Some people in the US media seem to prefer black athletes.
                  you are a sad individual who has an "everyone is against me mentality"

                  i also think you might be gay, the first insult you bring up in every argument is either a) "you hate white fighters" or b) "your a ****sexual"

                  your arguments with squealpiggy and ree****yaluss prove this

                  you probably have a weird attraction to black men and try to suppress it by constantly calling others ****sexuals and degrading black people

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                  • Zocalo
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                    #129
                    God knows everyone liked Corey Spinks when he was champ because he was black...

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
                      you are a sad individual who has an "everyone is against me mentality"

                      i also think you might be gay, the first insult you bring up in every argument is either a) "you hate white fighters" or b) "your a ****sexual"

                      your arguments with squealpiggy and ree****yaluss prove this

                      you probably have a weird attraction to black men and try to suppress it by constantly calling others ****sexuals and degrading black people
                      You are a LIAR.

                      I've never posted anything to degrade black people.

                      Squealpiggy has in the past said he's had **** sex with other men.

                      As for Reed, his fascination with black dudes goes a bit beyond what we would expect of a normal sports fan. I'm trying to understand the "******" mentality - is it self-hate? Is it due to ****sexual attraction to black guys? Such people seem to hate white athletes.

                      As for you, to accommodate your self-hate, regularly make posts and threads to try to degrade the Klitschkos, because you hate the idea of a white man being heavyweight champion. You have a sense of Australian nationalism, which is why you don't hate Tszyu and Darchinyan - but you despise the other good white fighters like Joe and Wlad.

                      Get over it - accept the Klitschkos for what they are. Try to pretend they are black men, it that will help you to stop hating them.
                      Last edited by The Hammer; 01-23-2009, 09:53 PM.

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