Klitsko might be the worst champion to ever "grace" the HW division (p4p)

[boxing_great]

Discuss. I wonder if he had fought guys his own size his whole career how many losses he would have. Good guy outside the ring and meh, if you ever wondered why many people don't like the HW division, see the fight again. I couldn't even see the whole of it, i quit in the 12th round before it ended :S Dull fight and so glad i didn't pay for the fight.

top thread, good work.

[LondonRingRules]

I wonder.

** What grade you are in?

Don't know the answer to that question. I do know Wlad comprehensively beat McCline and Peter, two fighters bigger than him. He also took them on at their apexes, but that's for next year's studies.

[landmine950]

Its not wlads fault there there are no great HW's to fight against.
So there what? the best of the worst crop in a long time.
Usually people THINK fighteres are great because they are in great fights.
wars make legends. Gatti /ward Ali fraizer etc
Larry Holmes was sooo much better than anyone else people just said everyone else was a bum.

BUT! the Klitschkos are average at best.

Wlad has NO chin.
Vitali lost ( got pummled) to a washed up Lewis
FACT! case closed.

[BmoreBrawler]

Ibragimov is the worst. Did you see his snoozefest vs Holyfield? A total disgrace for a champion to run like that.

[landmine950]

Huh

Much as I dont like the klitch's how does it make any sense to say well if they wern't fighting guys smaller than them...
Its like saying if they wern't so strong of fast or skilled or in shape well THEN they wouldnt beat those guys Dumb.

[j]

Its not wlads fault there there are no great HW's to fight against.
So there what? the best of the worst crop in a long time.
Usually people THINK fighteres are great because they are in great fights.
wars make legends. Gatti /ward Ali fraizer etc
Larry Holmes was sooo much better than anyone else people just said everyone else was a bum.

BUT! the Klitschkos are average at best.

Wlad has NO chin.
Vitali lost ( got pummled) to a washed up Lewis
FACT! case closed.

sort of destroys your boxing credibility. if you have eyes that work, than you should be able to see how fast, powerful, and accurate that jab of his is. couple that with a match for most powerfull straight right and left hook in history........

and vitali.... how many guys his size can make a seasoned vet miss like an amateur.

make sure your hate doesn't influence your decision making. if wladimir was surrounded by higher level talent, he would be even more talented. the higher level skills you are exposed to, the better you get. if you are trained, or have trained for over 3 or 4 years atleast, you already know this. higher level guys make a huge difference in your own experience. and you can't just watch 'em on tape to pick up most things.

[crold1]

He's not the worst. Wlad would beat a number of the men who were Heavyweight champion period and some that were closer to his size. Carnera, Willard...he beats both.

[Scott9945]

He's not the worst. Wlad would beat a number of the men who were Heavyweight champion period and some that were closer to his size. Carnera, Willard...he beats both.

Absolutely. Klitschko would beat both of those stiffs with ridiculous ease.

[landmine950]

J

All I said was that the Klitschkos are average ...

I'm speaking in relation to all the great HW's of all time...

RIGHT NOW.....they are the best...
I dont really like them..

BUT!
they are well skilled..
and most of all..
well schooled..

they use size, reach, and conditioning well

these guys are not dummies..

I stand by my statement, its not their fault that they are big fish in a small pond.

They have had opportunities to dominate the division. Vitali fell short when the chance was there to have the gauntlet passed to him from Lewis. HE lost..
Wlad ,with 3 KO on his record will always have a ? over his head

I think that Valuev HAD the chance to create a REAL stir in the div...he blew it..


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[Johnny Rebel]

All I said was that the Klitschkos are average ...

I'm speaking in relation to all the great HW's of all time...

RIGHT NOW.....they are the best...
I dont really like them..

BUT!
they are well skilled..
and most of all..
well schooled..

they use size, reach, and conditioning well

these guys are not dummies..

I stand by my statement, its not their fault that they are big fish in a small pond.

They have had opportunities to dominate the division. Vitali fell short when the chance was there to have the gauntlet passed to him from Lewis. HE lost..
Wlad ,with 3 KO on his record will always have a ? over his head

I think that Valuev HAD the chance to create a REAL stir in the div...he blew it..


comments?

Then Lewis with 2 KO's on his record should always have the same ? over his head for his career.