Had Mike Tyson never went to Prison in 1992?

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  • RichCCFC
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    #11
    Prime Lewis beats Prime Tyson anyway.

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    • Karlos81
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      #12
      If Tyson had stayed with Rooney and Cayton (Jacobs died in 87) and kept the same people around him you would never of heard of Douglas, Bowe, Holyfield or Lewis.

      Tyson was at his best between 20-22 whilst under Caytons banner 8-10yrs before a heavyweights peak. I wonder how Tyson would have been at 26,27,28 under Rooney still learning.

      Best ever imo.

      But he blew it.

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      • Karlos81
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        #13
        Originally posted by _Ricky_
        Prime Lewis beats Prime Tyson anyway.


        Im sorry im British but BBBWWWHHHAAA.

        Ban!

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        • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tyson
          Yeah, there's plenty of if's and butt's.

          But Lewis had mastered the one punch that could neutralize Tyson- even back in the day; the uppercut.

          Mercer and Tua is vastly different in the way they approach taller fighters.
          Tyson ducks under and comes up with hooks and uppercuts, in perfect position to be countered by uppercuts.

          Trust me, Tyson was open for uppercuts. Just like Frazier and every other fighter that goes down low with their head.

          And Lewis, a master of this punch, was strong enough to push Tyson off him even if he got close.

          Boxing is more advanced than just punching hard and fast.
          Good points, but it would have taken more than just the uppercut to beat Mike. He was a smart enough fighter not to let the same punch land over and over. Lewis caught Tyson with the uppercut in the first round when they fought, but never landed it again and that was Lewis at his peak mentally. Lewis had many advantages but he could have easily been knocked out or forced into being too defensive and lose a decision like a lot of fighters did against Mike.

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #15
            Originally posted by RossCA
            Also, look at how well guys like Mercer and Tua did against Lewis. they weren't completely dominated, they still got some good shots in. Tyson was ten times as good as those fighters.
            What did Tua win against Lewis? One, maybe two rounds? That's dominated my friend and I seriously doubt Tyson was 10 times better than Tua. Holyfield had Tyson's number anyway, Mike wouldn't have made it to Lewis.

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #16
              Holyfield would still have pushed Mike Tyson back the way he did in there 2 fights & showed that Tyson is not effective when he is backed up & he would still have broken down mentally when the fight got tough cause he did'nt have the character

              as for Bowe ,he could have controlled Tyson with the Jab & Bowe was'nt a man to take to many backward steps either ,no to mention the fact he was quick & hit hard aswell ,however Bowe Defence was pretty bad & if Mike came around his guard with hooks the way Evander did it could be a short night for Tyson ,a pick em fight IMO

              i dont think he beats Lewis on his best day TBH, Tyson wanted a way out of certain fights when they got tough he got discouraged easily at times ,Jail or no jail he was still a quitter who bailed in his biggest fights where his oponents actually stayed upright & hit him back

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              • danny stash
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                #17
                Originally posted by Karlos81
                Im sorry im British but BBBWWWHHHAAA.

                Ban!
                I agree dude, yeah tyson was no Rahman..Shut it man....

                Tyson would of Ko'ed an 92 Lewis all day. A prime Tyson vs a prime Lewis, not sure but I am sure of one thing Tyson could have KO'ed any fighter in any era in his hey day...

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                • RayLeonard82
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by tyson
                  Yeah, there's plenty of if's and butt's.

                  But Lewis had mastered the one punch that could neutralize Tyson- even back in the day; the uppercut.

                  Mercer and Tua is vastly different in the way they approach taller fighters.
                  Tyson ducks under and comes up with hooks and uppercuts, in perfect position to be countered by uppercuts.

                  Trust me, Tyson was open for uppercuts. Just like Frazier and every other fighter that goes down low with their head.

                  And Lewis, a master of this punch, was strong enough to push Tyson off him even if he got close.

                  Boxing is more advanced than just punching hard and fast.
                  Prime Tyson was a lot quicker then 2002 Tyson and even though he could have been vulnerable to upercuts, Lewis would not have landed them as much as he did against 36 year old Mike Tyson.

                  Mike would have had the speed advantage. You also have to look at because of that speed advantage,Mike would have tested out that weak Lewis chin a lot more then the older version of Tyson who was way past his prime.

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                    Prime Tyson was a lot quicker then 2002 Tyson and even though he could have been vulnerable to upercuts, Lewis would not have landed them as much as he did against 36 year old Mike Tyson.

                    Mike would have had the speed advantage. You also have to look at because of that speed advantage,Mike would have tested out that weak Lewis chin a lot more then the older version of Tyson who was way past his prime.
                    That's all well and good, but both Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield are older than Mike. Granted they both peaked later, but Mike was only 30 when Evander owned him the first time, hardly "over the hill," especially considering Mike didn't take a lot of punishment up till then.

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RayLeonard82
                      Prime Tyson was a lot quicker then 2002 Tyson and even though he could have been vulnerable to upercuts, Lewis would not have landed them as much as he did against 36 year old Mike Tyson.

                      Mike would have had the speed advantage. You also have to look at because of that speed advantage,Mike would have tested out that weak Lewis chin a lot more then the older version of Tyson who was way past his prime.
                      if Douglas could beat Tyson im sure a more skilled taller harder hitter like Lewis could have got rid of a prime Tyson aswell

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