If Hopkins beat Calzaghe where would that rank in an all time upsets list?

[Silencers]

It'd be a minor upset to me, not a major one.

[BennyST]

People are idiots, that's why. They rate Lacy and Kessler - I don't. Lacy has never been anything other than average outside of his KO of a completely shot Robin Reid (who wasn't even very good to begin with), and Kessler has never been anything other than average outside of his KO of a completely shot Markus Beyer (who wasn't even very good to begin with). Calzaghe is now grossly overrated in the US, having been grossly underrated before. It's quite funny.

The Hopkins who fought Tarver beats Calzaghe down.

Wow?! I think you're overestimating Hopkins and underestimating Calzaghe. Calzaghe has great skills, as does Hopkins of course. Lacy and Kessler were both very good fighters. Reid was also a very good fighter years before he fought Lacy. Don't fall into this typical cliche that Calzaghe is an overrated hack who has never fought anyone. He fought some very good fighters throughout the years, most of whom people didn't really know as they were not the huge superstars of the day but they were very good fighters.

You're right though in believing that Hopkins can still beat Calzaghe. I can't actually believe that some folks here think that there is no chance for him. Though I firmly believe, even know, that Calzaghe would have beaten any version of Tarver. Don't underrate him.

[Thread Stealer]

70% of this website thinks Hopkins will lose according to the polls that was ran. 36 to 15.

That's close to a 70/30 ratio. Not especially one-sided.

What do you think the polls would have been for Baldomir-Judah a couple years ago? Or Donaire-Darchinyan last year?

[Truth]

That's close to a 70/30 ratio. Not especially one-sided.

What do you think the polls would have been for Baldomir-Judah a couple years ago? Or Donaire-Darchinyan last year?

Your right, it wouldn't be a HUGE upset but I'd say a medium size upset. I would call it that.

[HotSizzle]

It wouldn't be that big of an upset.

[Orange Sneakers]

Reid wasn't very good - flat-footed, head-down, slow-punched over-achiever who couldn't even beat a one-handed Calzaghe (though was robbed against a shot Ottke - but then who wasn't robbed against Ottke?). Whiner Vincenzo was a joker, and a 50-year-old Sugarboy put a schooling on him through doing his usual thing - cup his hands near his chin, slide back and forth and throw nothing but a long left jab and the occasional right hand, and an occasional snappy uppercut in a clinch, that's it.

[MetalVomit]

If Hopkins beats Calzaghe, I will be more shocked than I was when Corrie Sanders took out Wladimir Klitschko, or when Vernon Forrest took out Shane Mosley, or when Ricardo Mayorga took out Vernon Forrest twice.

[Truth]

^ Seee Lol God Has Spoken!!!!!!lol

[BennyST]

Personally I think it's the other way round. Calzaghe squares up with his chin up and eats right hands, always has, but Lacy was too slow and Kessler was too stiff - Hopkins will reduce the output on movement alone. He also happens to have the best lead right hand in boxing history, and is a master against southpaws. And every time Joe falls short with his slappy flurries, Bernard will land a counter right hand because he's good - again, Lacy was too slow and Kessler too stiff.

Whoah, don't go overboard on Hopkins mate! His lead right is good, very good, but it ain't even close to being the best in history. There are fighters now that have better lead rights. Anyway, it will be a big weapon for him either way and could do some major damage to Calzaghe.

Calzaghe looked like a ***** trying to fight his way out of spider webs in his last three fights. I'm baffled as to why Americans are suddenly kissing his jock, and before thought he was a joker.

His skills against Sheika, Woodhall and Veit the first time were the best they ever were. Since then they've gradually eroded.

Me thinks you don't like Calzaghe. Though you're right about his skills having diminished quite a bit since his fight with Lacy. He was a great, great fighter who had skills better than most people think. If people took the time to watch his old fights without any bias, you can see his fighting skills. Great stuff!

Still, he has lost a fair bit since those days even though he can still beat the top guys now. That just shows you though how good he was. He has lost considerable skills but is still beating the main guy at SMW who was undefeated and had beaten some good competition.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Would it be considered a great upset or just a minor one? It would be wild, even I'm not picking Hopkins to win. A 43 year old figher beats a guy 8 years younger who has never been beaten before and is one of the best pound 4 pound fighters in the world.....thats pretty crazy if it did happen.

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