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  • hookoutofhell
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    #61
    people seriously overrate kelly pavliks power - hes a good fighter but he by no means the one punch KO artist that some people want to believe.

    robinson was a big puncher at welter not so much at MW, jake and marvin were like kelly. they were pressure fighters with a good chin, excellent stamina and fought hard until they beat the other man into submission. out of kely, marvin and lamotta id say hagler was the strongest puncher.

    of all time it goes like this:
    1) jackson - why he is not on your list i cannot figure out, p4p the hardest puncher ever
    2) mclellan - damn shame what happened to the guy, he had a great right hand and was a guy who would have been as his trainer said one of the greats
    3) hearns - maybe slightly controversial choice but is the only man who staggered hagler, is well known at WW but even at MW he had a devastating right hand that if he timed well and he caught you on the end of the punch you were gooing down

    benn is a popular choice but he had a style that allowed him to generate maximum power behind very shot, the guys above him were more one punch KO artists. benn was a strong brawler blessed with good power but not raw power ala jackson.

    mugabi and hagler were also very heavy handed guys

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    • Miburo
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      #62
      Originally posted by BennyST
      Yeah, I'm getting a bit confused by everyone thinking guys like LaMotta and Hagler were devastating punchers. Hagler had solid power and could knock guys out, but LaMotta was the true classic brawler that literally didn't have any power.

      Kind of like Juan Diaz today. Great pressure fighter but the only way he stopped guys was through non stop pounding on them for an entire fight. I don't think he had any one punch KO's. Where did this weird myth come from? I've seen it recently a fair bit, along with Hagler also mentioned as one of the great punchers. Hagler was a boxer first. Most of his career he was not considered even a hard puncher. He was thought of as a quick, smart boxer with good movement, counter punching skills and a great jab.

      Funnily enough, there is not one guy in that list that I would even think of as being one of the top ten hardest punchers in MW. Benn could maybe sneak in there.
      It mostly comes from the logical misstep that tough, iron-chinned fighters must consequently also be punchers, since they gained said reputation by being able to take shots and therefore must have problems winning point decisions against superior boxers if they can't hurt them.
      Last edited by Miburo; 04-05-2009, 07:09 AM.

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      • BennyST
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        #63
        Originally posted by hookoutofhell
        people seriously overrate kelly pavliks power - hes a good fighter but he by no means the one punch KO artist that some people want to believe.

        3) hearns - maybe slightly controversial choice but is the only man who staggered hagler, is well known at WW but even at MW he had a devastating right hand that if he timed well and he caught you on the end of the punch you were gooing down
        Yeah, Pavlik's power does get overdone. I guess not as much anymore since the humiliating loss to B-Hop, but he never had one punch KO power. Hundred punches a round tells you a lot about him and his type of KO's.

        Hearns controversial? Why? He was knocking guys out with one punch from welterweight to cruiserweight! Easily one of the hardest punchers ever. The simple fact he stopped Duran with one punch is enough. No one else got close to doing that. Huge MW punchers like Barkley (whom Toney said was the hardest puncher he ever fought along with Merqui Sosa) couldn't even floor him, let alone knock him out with a single punch. Amazing.

        His huge KO's of Schuler, Hutchings, Roldan, Andries, Lapaglia etc etc were brutal.

        Originally posted by Tengoshi
        It mostly come from the logical misstep that tough, iron-chinned fighters must consequently also be punchers since they gained said reputation by being able to take shots and therefore must have problems winning point decisions against superior boxers if they can't hurt them.
        Yeah, it must, which is a funny thing because it's quite often the case that the hard chinned guys don't have big punches, while the slightly weaker chinned guys have dynamite in their fists.

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        • Miburo
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          #64
          Originally posted by BennyST
          Yeah, it must, which is a funny thing because it's quite often the case that the hard chinned guys don't have big punches, while the slightly weaker chinned guys have dynamite in their fists.
          Yeah, there are relatively few examples among the truly top punchers who possessed both. Foreman, McClellan, Marciano...

          Foreman was probably the best combination of raw power and chin, if it weren't for stamina issues in his younger days I doubt he'd have ever been dropped in his career.

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          • portuge puncher
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            #65
            rocky graziano should be here

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            • -Lowkey-
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              #66
              out of that list benn

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              • marciano207
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                #67
                Lamotta???? Is that a joke

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                • sterling
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                  #68
                  julian jackson

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                  • mickyward5656
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                    #69
                    pavlik hit harder than all of em......

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                      #70
                      julian jackson
                      gerald mcclellan
                      nigel benn

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