Which names are better on your record?

[-Swizzy-]

Mikkel Kessler was regarded as a top 10 P4P fighter by many. It doesn't matter anyhow, most of the mythical P4P list are from the states so It's all biased. Kessler is the best fighter Calzaghe could of fought in his last fight and he won, that win means far more than a win over a Winky Wright fighting 16lbs above his natural weight.

the states doesn't compile biased lists. they are lists compiled by editors who have nothing to gain out of giving european fighters less recognition than american fighters. for example, I think calzaghe is ranked higher then he should be by the american editors. In fact, in the ring top ten p4p list, there are only 3 american fighters, mayweather, hopkins, wright. They could've easily put more americans on that list but they didn't. your arguments are weak and hateful.

[RichCCFC]

the states doesn't compile biased lists. they are lists compiled by editors who have nothing to gain out of giving european fighters less recognition than american fighters. for example, I think calzaghe is ranked higher then he should be by the american editors. In fact, in the ring top ten p4p list, there are only 3 american fighters, mayweather, hopkins, wright. They could've easily put more americans on that list but they didn't. your arguments are weak and hateful.

Me hateful? You're the ****** who has Pavlik above Calzaghe in your P4P rankings.

That's hateful.

[-Swizzy-]

Me hateful? You're the ****** who has Pavlik above Calzaghe in your P4P rankings.

That's hateful.

why would I hate calzaghe? give me 1 good reason. you will come to realize that my opinions are completely unbiased.

[RichCCFC]

why would I hate calzaghe? give me 1 good reason. you will come to realize that my opinions are completely unbiased.

I don't know why?

But it's clear you do.

[-Swizzy-]

I don't. the only reason I would rank pavlik higher than calzaghe is because of accomplisments and skills. but that wouldn't be called hating.

[RichCCFC]

I don't. the only reason I would not rank pavlik higher than calzaghe is because of accomplisments and skills. but that wouldn't be called hating.

How about resumes?

Calzaghe's resume is a lot better than Pavliks.

[Ironside]

Boxrec is garbage at ranking.

[-Swizzy-]

How about resumes?

Calzaghe's resume is a lot better than Pavliks.

it might be better over all but when it comes to recent accomplishments and rankings purposes, pavlik destroys calzaghe and should be ranked higher IMO.

Pavlik recent fights: Zertuche, Miranda, Taylor, Taylor
vs
Calzaghe recent fights: Manfred Jr, Kessler

you cannot tell me that calzaghe deserves a higher ranking on the p4p lists.

[Jim Jeffries]

it might be better over all but when it comes to recent accomplishments and rankings purposes, pavlik destroys calzaghe and should be ranked higher IMO.

Pavlik recent fights: Zertuche, Miranda, Taylor, Taylor
vs
Calzaghe recent fights: Manfred Jr, Kessler

you cannot tell me that calzaghe deserves a higher ranking on the p4p lists.

Okay you're only listing the fights they had since the beginning of last year (of course Calzaghe had fewer, he's 10 years older.) But using that same method, Floyd would drop completely off if he only fought DLH this year, which looks highly probable.

[RichCCFC]

kswizzy99 never has any valid arguements at all. He trys to force his BS down everyones throat every time there is an arguement. Calzaghe is clearly better than Pavlik in every way including resumes so that's the arguement over.