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  • moofo
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    #61
    Originally posted by 215Chaingang
    just tell your boy don't run into the post like hatton
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    Here we go again with the dumb Yanks.
    Do you presume I am British?
    Do you presume I am a FAN of Calzaghe?

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    • letsgobrady
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      #62
      Originally posted by RageX
      Joe has fought 10 times above 168 lbs. 7 times above 170, Joe struggled to make 168 lbs while Hopkins struggled to make 160 lbs.

      Ofcourse the height and reach says it all, doesn't it

      Paul Williams is bigger than Mikkel Kessler

      Paul Williams height: 6'1
      Paul Williams Reach: 82
      started career at 156 lbs

      Mikkel Kessler height: 6'1
      Mikkel Kessler Reach: 73
      Started his career at: 152 lbs

      yes moofo stats are everything...its official Paul Williams is bigger than Mikkel Kessler
      williams started at 156 and moved down to 147 kessler started at 152 and moved up to 168.so who's the bigger man?

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      • THE REED
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        #63
        Originally posted by moofo
        And PLEASE don't try to tell me Tarver was tip top condition either.
        I FIRMLY believe Tarver was terrible in that fight, and it had NOTHING to do with bernard... The tarver that fought roy, would of beaten Bernard... Tarver was absolutely lethargic in that fight...

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        • 215Chaingang
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          #64
          Note Manfredo and Kessler, Calzaghe's last two opponents have fought at 153 lbs, just going by stats like moofo did

          Damn im done with this, seriously. Non Stop Boxing wtf is wrong these days
          they don't know the history of boxing just what they see now. it like say lebron is best ever, did u see kobe, mj, a.i., magic, bird, oscar, dr.j or wilt

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            #65
            Originally posted by letsgobrady
            williams started at 156 and moved down to 147 kessler started at 152 and moved up to 168.so who's the bigger man?
            Hopkins moved to 160, Calzaghe struggles to make 168, so who's the bigger man? I love it when posters post the fighters stats not knowing how deceiving they can be. BTW I was being sarcastic on the Williams Kessler comparison if you couldn't notice already moofo posted stats that had hopkins as the bigger height, reach and the weight started so i thought i would post stats of williams as the bigger height, reach and weight he started in compared to kessler.

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            • 215Chaingang
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              #66
              Here we go again with the dumb Yanks.
              Do you presume I am British?
              Do you presume I am a FAN of Calzaghe?
              you presume i don't know boxing
              i don't care where you from or who you like it does not the fact was already on the table. as we say when play spade i just a boston on your ass you might want stop now. assume i don't do but you are making a ass out your self

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              • letsgobrady
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                #67
                cotto weighed 135 his first fight but he is not considered a lightweight he is a welterwight the same with manfredo and kessler. oscar and tito fought the majority of there career at 147 and had no problems whatsoever with the weight they were also at their best at 147 thats why they are considered welterweights

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                • 215Chaingang
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                  #68
                  I FIRMLY believe Tarver was terrible in that fight, and it had NOTHING to do with bernard... The tarver that fought roy, would of beaten Bernard... Tarver was absolutely lethargic in that fight...
                  terrible and lethargic i'll agree. what tarver in three fight are you talking about. because the one that got the kO was lucky cause he closed his eyes and swung check the tape plus i think he got up for roy

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by 215Chaingang
                    terrible and lethargic i'll agree. what tarver in three fight are you talking about. because the one that got the kO was lucky cause he closed his eyes and swung check the tape plus i think he got up for roy
                    i know it was a lucky punch even though thats a forbidden term in boxing.. but yes he got up for roy... in his fights with roy he had snap, and power, and patience, and speed... against b hop.. it just wasnt there.. prolly had something to do with the fact 6 months before the fight he weighed 220lbs for the rocky movie.. but were also not allowed to use weight excuses either..

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                    • 215Chaingang
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                      i know it was a lucky punch even though thats a forbidden term in boxing.. but yes he got up for roy... in his fights with roy he had snap, and power, and patience, and speed... against b hop.. it just wasnt there.. prolly had something to do with the fact 6 months before the fight he weighed 220lbs for the rocky movie.. but were also not allowed to use weight excuses either..
                      but the one thing i noticed was he has stamina problems in those and bhop probably seen that too. roy had the same problem with his weight my thing with the weight is slowly come back down don't rush. once you sign that contract you are commited to being ready for the fight no excuse, (height, weight, i'm in the wrong divison, toe nail, etc) this is the point of advisors and trainers and managers. you could always pull out of the fight

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