Valuev will beat Chagaev in the rematch

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  • TheGreatA
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    #21
    Valuev looked good against a fat, inactive Lyakhovich but people seem to forget how bad Valuev looked in his fight before that against a Canadian journeyman. Lyakhovich was simply standing infront of Valuev like a glorified punching bag, the Canadian guy presented him a much more difficult target to hit and Valuev had trouble.

    Chagaev has lost respect from me lately but his skill level is on a different level than Valuev's who never had an amateur career and Chagaev is used to fighting bigger guys.

    Chagaev will win another close decision though I'm not sure if they would give a decision to him against Valuev unless he dominates and that's not going to happen.
    So it could go either way.
    Last edited by TheGreatA; 02-20-2008, 04:10 AM.

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    • duffgun
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      #22
      Originally posted by TheManchine
      Valuev looked good against a fat, inactive Lyakhovich but people seem to forget how bad Valuev looked in his fight before that against a Canadian journeyman. Lyakhovich was simply standing infront of Valuev like a glorified punching bag, the Canadian guy presented him a much more difficult target to hit and Valuev had trouble.

      Chagaev has lost respect from me lately but his skill level is on a different level than Valuev's who never had an amateur career and Chagaev is used to fighting bigger guys.

      Chagaev will win another close decision though I'm not sure if they would give a decision to him against Valuev unless he dominates and that's not going to happen.
      So it could go either way.
      true i think that valuev could take it though in a close fight.

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      • TheGreatA
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        #23

        Valuev vs Bergeron. Simple movement decreases Valuev's punch output by about 50%.


        Valuev vs Chagaev.

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        • 11player
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          #24
          True, Valuev improved some, but he is still too slow, specially with that right hand.

          He should try to beat Chagaev with the jab, that's his best chance, even change to a southpaw stance at times during the fight to try to damage Chagaev a little more, jabbing with the right.

          Don't forget that Liakovich never fought back, so this fight should not receive much consideration as to what we will see in the rematch.

          IMO, Bergeron was by far a better test to Valuev than Liakovich.

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          • slicksouthpaw16
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            #25
            Originally posted by Parody
            If we see the same Valuev in the Lyakovich fight he will beat Chagaev,
            Disagreed. If we see the same Valuev that fought Lyakovich, he will again be out boxed badly. It is easy to look good against an opponent that is over weight, not fighting you back, and had been knocked out in his last fight so he was not even mentally prepared for the fight.

            I just know for sure he has figured his style out and will come with a strategy. He should use his jab more, and be as active as he was in his last fight. Chagaev's performance against Skelton was pathetic...

            That wouldn't happen. Chagaev is too slick and too good of a boxer to be figured out by somone that is as one demensional as Valuev. If anyone is doing the adjusting, then its going to be Chagaev. Chagaev will again, dictate the pace and have Valuev fighting his fight and walking into hard counter shots. This time i see Chagaev going to Valuev's body more, not throwing one punch at a time the way he did in the first fight, and sitting down on his shots more and do some real damge. I see this as a repeat but maybe even worse. Chagaev just has the tools to negate Valuev's game, which is coming in with slow jabs and right hands (which will only hit gloves). I see Chagaev (just like in the first fight) staying on the outside and picking his spots to work.

            I had chagaev winning by a very wide margin the first time and i see him doing it again, only better. Chagaev UD Valuev.
            Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 02-20-2008, 08:00 AM.

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            • Zerwas1
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              #26
              Originally posted by 11player
              He should try to beat Chagaev with the jab, that's his best chance, even change to a southpaw stance at times during the fight to try to damage Chagaev a little more, jabbing with the right.
              You guys are talking as if Valuev was landing more than 10% of his jabs...
              Southpaw stance????Valuev the great great great technician shall change to southpaw aaahahaahahahahaaa this one had me rolling

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              • 11player
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                #27
                Hey, that would be a way to use his only weapon against Chagaev, the jab.
                If he will be able to do it, within his limitations, well, that is a totally different story, probably not.

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                • Zerwas1
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                  #28
                  The problem is, that chagaev holds his right very high and is blocking his jabs or pushing them to the side. beside from that is Ruslan's headmovement too fast for Valuev.

                  Valuev needs to learn to throw more variable, he's too predictable.

                  If Valuev beats Chagaev with his jab, than Chagaev gets my vote for the dumbest boxer of the year for abandoning a perferct gameplan
                  Last edited by Zerwas1; 02-20-2008, 11:09 AM.

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                  • sparked_85
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                    #29
                    Chagaev will beat him again. He looked like **** against Skelton, but I bet even Wlad would look like **** against Matt.

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                    • Dorian
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                      #30
                      hell yeah

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