Roy Jones can beat Pavlik

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  • CardioMonster
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    #21
    I think RJJ could still beat Pavlik. Yes he was knocked out by two near perfect punches, but Pavlik is open to being countered with fast accurate punches. Taylor was noticebly faster than Pavlik and Jones still has the fastest hands at Middleweight in my opinion.

    I think 80% of Jones knocks Pavlik out. Taylor damn nearly did it the first time, and he is no where near RJJ class even at this point.

    If the referee had called off the first Taylor Pavlik fight, no one could have complained....now suddenly he wins a close fight against Taylor and he is going to whip Jones? No way.

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    • Burning Desire
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      #22
      I really don't see why people think Jones can beat Pavlik, like i said in the other topic Jones spends far too much time on the ropes, and lets his opponent's just fire off punches without firing back especially in his fights with Tito, Hanshaw. Pavlik is a master at backing people up and punishing them on the ropes if you see in the 1st Taylor fight anytime Taylor went too the ropes he got hammered and he had to quickly get the hell out of there, but Roy doesn't do that. He spends most of the time on the ropes and against a very aggressive and strong fighter like Pavlik that doesn't look good for Jones IMO.

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        #23
        Originally posted by CardioMonster
        I think RJJ could still beat Pavlik. Yes he was knocked out by two near perfect punches, but Pavlik is open to being countered with fast accurate punches. Taylor was noticebly faster than Pavlik and Jones still has the fastest hands at Middleweight in my opinion.

        I think 80% of Jones knocks Pavlik out. Taylor damn nearly did it the first time, and he is no where near RJJ class even at this point.

        If the referee had called off the first Taylor Pavlik fight, no one could have complained....now suddenly he wins a close fight against Taylor and he is going to whip Jones? No way.
        Jones was hammered against Johnson it wasn't a near perfect punch, Johnson set him up by softening him up then waiting for his chance and he KO Jones, Johnson is not a big puncher and he backed Roy up for most of the fight and won majority of the rounds and Jones would let Johnson hammer him far too much on the ropes without firing back, yes Jones had his moments when he countered with flashy shots but it was few and far between and it was only in spurts.

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        • DrewWoodside
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          #24
          Pavlik may appear a little one dimensional but with the volume he throws and his ability to come forward through punches, its gonna be difficult to decision him and really difficult to brawl him. If he's a one trick pony.. it's a helluva trick.

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          • blacksky
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            #25
            He's hasn`t fought anyone. The paper champion Taylor nearly knocked his ass out. As soon as he fights a decent technical boxer who can punch....

            night night kelly.

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            • DrewWoodside
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              #26
              and who would that fighter be? Who exactly is gonna cause a Pavlik stoppage?

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              • blacksky
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                #27
                He already lost in my eyes, the referee let him off the hook in the first taylor fight.

                Anyone has a chance of knocking Pavlik out. Abraham could knock him out.

                Damn, Pavlik was doing the chicken dance in the first fight, was competing with Zabs version

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by blacksky
                  He already lost in my eyes, the referee let him off the hook in the first taylor fight.

                  Anyone has a chance of knocking Pavlik out. Abraham could knock him out.

                  Damn, Pavlik was doing the chicken dance in the first fight, was competing with Zabs version
                  The ref let him off the hook ?? uhh Pavlik's survival instincts got him off the hook. In what way did the ref let him off the hook ?? Smoger is known as a punchers ref for letting fights go on. Its not something new he always does is he never let Pavlik off the hook.

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                  • DrewWoodside
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by blacksky
                    He already lost in my eyes, the referee let him off the hook in the first taylor fight.

                    Anyone has a chance of knocking Pavlik out. Abraham could knock him out.

                    Damn, Pavlik was doing the chicken dance in the first fight, was competing with Zabs version
                    Pavlik made a ****** mistake allowing Taylor to completely tee off on his face for about 7 straight punches. We're not gonna see that happen again. Anyone else took those punches would have been KTFO. I love Taylor but the Ref let Taylor off the hook when he stopped Taylor in the corner. Also, Abraham's stamina is a joke, I honestly have Miranda winning the rematch with relative ease anywhere outside of Germany. If you don't think Home Field Advantage saved his fight then you haven't seen the fight. It's available for download in the video trading block incase you haven't.

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                    • blacksky
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                      #30
                      yeah if you call turning your back and running across the ring surviving in a ring, maybe thats surviving in the jungle but this is boxing.

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