Roy Jones Jr.-Jermain Taylor in The Works

[robjr]

slicksouthpaw... i duno about some yer opinions..

[Mike Tyson77]

slicksouthpaw... i duno about some yer opinions..

slicksouthpaw is Chad Dawson...

[slicksouthpaw16]

if either of those fights happen.. lets bet all yer points on it..

You have a deal

[slicksouthpaw16]

we have talked about this b4, can we let chad beat some one who is a top guy b4 we start making such foolish claims! 1 round? come on man, u can't really be that far up his ass can u? taylor has done some very good things, but to say he ko's roy in 2 is so ignorant! ffs please get a clue!

I already proved you wrong in the other thread. Look at it like this, Tarver knocked out Roy in 2 rounds, im not comparing Dawson to Tarver because styles makes fights but was that ignorant? You never make any sense. Dawson is too young and just has too much in his arsenal for Roy.

Did you notice that when Roy was on ESPN, Dawson was not even on his top 5 list of opponents to fight. He claims that he is ''the man'' at 175 but he will not even fight the best in that class. Dawson is also better than Tarver and Johnson.

Dawson has the tools to negate Roys game, he would take advantage as Roy layed on the ropes, counter effectivley, use his height and eventually stop Roy. I also think that he would do it quickly.

[Pugilistic™]

this bout doesn't interest me much

[MELLY-MEL...]

I already proved you wrong in the other thread. Look at it like this, Tarver knocked out Roy in 2 rounds, im not comparing Dawson to Tarver because styles makes fights but was that ignorant? You never make any sense. Dawson is too young and just has too much in his arsenal for Roy.

Did you notice that when Roy was on ESPN, Dawson was not even on his top 5 list of opponents to fight. He claims that he is ''the man'' at 175 but he will not even fight the best in that class. Dawson is also better than Tarver and Johnson.

Dawson has the tools to negate Roys game, he would take advantage as Roy layed on the ropes, counter effectivley, use his height and eventually stop Roy. I also think that he would do it quickly.

no, all you did is say "chad dawson is the best, i love him. he will beat anyone etc....," thats all you ever say! but as usual, you gave no factual analysis to support any nonsense statements you come up with! your blind heggerism for this guy is borderline stalking! geet a hobby!

[THE REED]

I posted this in the other thread



Let me answer for a few... i wrote these before u guys posted!!!! lol


UltimateBoxa:

Roy has a glass chin and will be knocked out Cold by Jermaine... Jermaine is too strong, and Roy likes to goto sleep way to much... Tito was hitting jones all night... and Roy only fights 2 minutes a round, considering how well jermaine did against Pavlik... beating Tito is BARELY the step up in competition he needs to fight jermain... Taylor KO3 Jones

SlickerSouthpaw:

Theres no way Jones can hang with Jermain at this stage in his career... Im sorry but I think he has stamina problems and cant take a punch... If jermaine connects its lights out for Roy... Back in the day RJJ was GREAT.. but at this point.. he gets knocked out by the younger fresher Jermaine.
Taylor KO2 jones

Moofo:
Roys 39 years old.
Hes been knocked out TWICE.
He beat 2 bums and a washed up, blown up, inactive Trinidad.
Explain to me please, how Roy could even WISH to beat Jermain at this stage in his career...
Taylor KO6Jones

First Rule of Battle: Know thy enemy.


Me:
I think as far as punch output... there actually pretty even... take into acount how Pavlik just marches in forward in a straight line, pretty much gives Taylor the chance to punch whenever he feels like it....

Fighting roy, he still does things that 85% of everyone overlooks... First off.. he holds his right hand lead Directly in your face... so when your looking for openings with your jab against Roy, all you see is a glove in your face.. and you see Roys Left hanging off to the side... it almost feels like if you come in your getting hit with the left hook... if you try and jab your gonna get countered with the right.... these are the things you see fighting Roy, and he DOES have the hand speed accuracy to pull the trigger on you...

Also if Jermaine for one second gets lazy with that left hand and starts bringin it down, look for one of the fastest straight rights in boxing to hit him Directly... and Jermaine SWELLS, EASY...

Also the fact that Jermaine has an UP jab... he likes to come up with his jab... with Roy holding out his right lead glove all the time it pretty much is covering over that up jab... and is also ni direct site to land on his face at the same time...

What Roy needs to look out from Jermaine is... instead of Jermaine coming up with the up jab... step in with a wide left hook... at this point Roy doesnt move BACK as quickly as he used too, and his reflexes HAVE slowed, and when he tries to step back from a wide left hook.. Jermaine has a good reach... so that could be BAD for Roy... DEFINITELY...

Obviously the moving back on the ropes part is also bad for Roy, he cant be doing any of that as Jermaine does have a hell of a punch. Im curious to see what Roys view is gonna be on Taylor as far as... who does Roy think is the bigger guy... In roys mind hes comin from, HW, and jermaines comin from MW... so Roy might want to try and walk Taylor down like he did Trinidad...

I personally think Jermaine is the bigger guy... but.. Jermaine does kinda crouch down a lot when he fights, and so far Roys been doin that WWinky style, and he kinda stands up straighter... He looked a lot taller than Tito, and there the same height.. So Roy could end up looking the bigger man...

I personally dont feel hes that washed up... Lets not forget.. Roy got knockd out.. it WAS 4 years ago.. since then hes had 3 fights, each one being tougher than the last... hes JUST as active as Taylor... Roy fought in July and January.. Taylor fought in September and February... Roys gone through a good 24 rounds... Taylor got KOed in September, and just Went through a hellacious training camp, and a Hellacious second fight... on top of that... Jermaine is now gonna move UP in to a bigger weight class.. and Roys gona move down... This will do two things... Get Roy in better shape, and take power away from Jermaine... Its more even than you think it is...

Ill go with Roy UD... based on VERY clean VISIBLE punching, especially from Angles... and Jermaine finding it difficult to get past Roys stance and counter punching abilities.. But its not a walk in the park either.. he better get UP for Jermaine...

[robjr]

I posted this in the other thread



Let me answer for a few... i wrote these before u guys posted!!!! lol


UltimateBoxa:

Roy has a glass chin and will be knocked out Cold by Jermaine... Jermaine is too strong, and Roy likes to goto sleep way to much... Tito was hitting jones all night... and Roy only fights 2 minutes a round, considering how well jermaine did against Pavlik... beating Tito is BARELY the step up in competition he needs to fight jermain... Taylor KO3 Jones

SlickerSouthpaw:

Theres no way Jones can hang with Jermain at this stage in his career... Im sorry but I think he has stamina problems and cant take a punch... If jermaine connects its lights out for Roy... Back in the day RJJ was GREAT.. but at this point.. he gets knocked out by the younger fresher Jermaine.
Taylor KO2 jones

Moofo:
Roys 39 years old.
Hes been knocked out TWICE.
He beat 2 bums and a washed up, blown up, inactive Trinidad.
Explain to me please, how Roy could even WISH to beat Jermain at this stage in his career...
Taylor KO6Jones

First Rule of Battle: Know thy enemy.


Me:
I think as far as punch output... there actually pretty even... take into acount how Pavlik just marches in forward in a straight line, pretty much gives Taylor the chance to punch whenever he feels like it....

Fighting roy, he still does things that 85% of everyone overlooks... First off.. he holds his right hand lead Directly in your face... so when your looking for openings with your jab against Roy, all you see is a glove in your face.. and you see Roys Left hanging off to the side... it almost feels like if you come in your getting hit with the left hook... if you try and jab your gonna get countered with the right.... these are the things you see fighting Roy, and he DOES have the hand speed accuracy to pull the trigger on you...

Also if Jermaine for one second gets lazy with that left hand and starts bringin it down, look for one of the fastest straight rights in boxing to hit him Directly... and Jermaine SWELLS, EASY...

Also the fact that Jermaine has an UP jab... he likes to come up with his jab... with Roy holding out his right lead glove all the time it pretty much is covering over that up jab... and is also ni direct site to land on his face at the same time...

What Roy needs to look out from Jermaine is... instead of Jermaine coming up with the up jab... step in with a wide left hook... at this point Roy doesnt move BACK as quickly as he used too, and his reflexes HAVE slowed, and when he tries to step back from a wide left hook.. Jermaine has a good reach... so that could be BAD for Roy... DEFINITELY...

Obviously the moving back on the ropes part is also bad for Roy, he cant be doing any of that as Jermaine does have a hell of a punch. Im curious to see what Roys view is gonna be on Taylor as far as... who does Roy think is the bigger guy... In roys mind hes comin from, HW, and jermaines comin from MW... so Roy might want to try and walk Taylor down like he did Trinidad...

I personally think Jermaine is the bigger guy... but.. Jermaine does kinda crouch down a lot when he fights, and so far Roys been doin that WWinky style, and he kinda stands up straighter... He looked a lot taller than Tito, and there the same height.. So Roy could end up looking the bigger man...

I personally dont feel hes that washed up... Lets not forget.. Roy got knockd out.. it WAS 4 years ago.. since then hes had 3 fights, each one being tougher than the last... hes JUST as active as Taylor... Roy fought in July and January.. Taylor fought in September and February... Roys gone through a good 24 rounds... Taylor got KOed in September, and just Went through a hellacious training camp, and a Hellacious second fight... on top of that... Jermaine is now gonna move UP in to a bigger weight class.. and Roys gona move down... This will do two things... Get Roy in better shape, and take power away from Jermaine... Its more even than you think it is...

Ill go with Roy UD... based on VERY clean VISIBLE punching, especially from Angles... and Jermaine finding it difficult to get past Roys stance and counter punching abilities.. But its not a walk in the park either.. he better get UP for Jermaine...

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[THE REED]

great sig......

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Ali down but not out

Kswizzy99-
Ali got knocked DOWN by Frazier not KO'd. He got up and finished the fight. That's a big difference.