Jermaine Taylor.. The NEW Zab Judah??

[Welter_Skelter]

There is no real comparison between them.

Taylor might be athletically gifted but not nearly as gifted as Judah is and mentally Taylor is a lot stronger than Judah, the rematch with Pavlik was proof of this.

Taylor lacks stamina, I don't really have any idea why because he looks like he is in great shape but he tires very easily, maybe because he is nervous, Judah doesn't have problems with his stamina but rather his concentration during fights.

Nice answer... Those are valid points.. I think however That Taylor also suffers from a lack of concentration... and I also think Judah has a bit of a Stamina problem..

[HotSizzle]

No way he's anything like zab taylor is actually smart and knows what he has to do and you can't say he looked gassed out cus so did pavlik and taylor has wins against good opposition.

[Kobe Bryant]

Is That your counter point???

Pretty much no explanation is recquired for some of the stuff on here.

[Deeznuts]

Well, not yet, I dont think he is a zab. Zab has a weaker chin, but maybe u can compare him to Mosley who lost 2 Forrest twice and beat Oscar twice. Taylor lost to Pavlik twice and beat Hops twice and with a bit of controversy in the decisions of both fighters

[Welter_Skelter]

For starters Taylor listens to his corner, Judah doesn't.
Judah has a glass chin, Taylor doesn't. He proved that in the rematch by boxing Kelly's nasty ears off.

Judah has the mental capacity of a 4 year old with autism, Taylor thinks under pressure.

Judah has the tools yet was never able to capitalize on them. What was his biggest win? Spinks?! Taylor was the undisputed middleweight champion of the world and beat the great Hopkins TWICE.

Ummmm Ask manny Stewart about that..

That was little better of an answer... Still a bit delusional on the taylor aspect.. but a very good answer for you.. see it's not impossible is it???

[-EX-]

I don't think so. Jermain BEATS the people HE IS SUPPOSED to beat. Jermain would have destroyed a Baldomir type guy. And Zab stops throwing as the punch goes on. Jermain's output decreases but he's still in the fight. And I think Zab suffers mentally. Jermain's problem is stamina related. Its close though. Jermain just lost to somebody who was better than him. Zab could lose mentally and be finished for the fight.

When Jermain is getting backed up he knows he has to come back strong and throws flurries. Zab just takes the beating until its over(see Cotto).

[wmute]

Both of thse guys are Gifted.. Both have Fluid Boxing skills.. and the abilty to dazzle in the ring..

Both of these guys have tendency to fade.. and both are beatable as soon as a meaningful punch or 2 is landed against them..

Once they get hit.. The whole fight changes.. and all that God Given talent goes to waste..

Anyone else seen this connection???

In terms of skills Taylor is not even close to Judah. Not even close.

p4p Judah is also faster and hist harder.

Not saying that Judah is a great fighter or anything like that, but Taylor is a few steps down.

The boxing gods cried when they saw a great technician like Hopkins lose his title to a sloppy fighter such as Taylor.

[Njord777]

There is no real comparison between them.

Taylor might be athletically gifted but not nearly as gifted as Judah is and mentally Taylor is a lot stronger than Judah, the rematch with Pavlik was proof of this.

Taylor lacks stamina, I don't really have any idea why because he looks like he is in great shape but he tires very easily, maybe because he is nervous, Judah doesn't have problems with his stamina but rather his concentration during fights.

I second that. I completely agree with you in every way. For Judah any weakness is mental; Taylor proved he can be in a fight mentally but has a bit of a stamina issue when he needs to seal his win with a strong last round or two.

[Eaner0919]

Both of thse guys are Gifted.. Both have Fluid Boxing skills.. and the abilty to dazzle in the ring..

Both of these guys have tendency to fade.. and both are beatable as soon as a meaningful punch or 2 is landed against them..

Once they get hit.. The whole fight changes.. and all that God Given talent goes to waste..

Anyone else seen this connection???

disagree on some

I think its debatable that Taylor is physically gifted if that is what you are alluding to. To me, part of being a physically gifted athelete means having the ability to adjust adapt and implement changes to your game. Taylor does not have that in him. It's been agreed upon in here that he does posess some intelligence (at least in comparison with Judah) and the ability to listen to instruction given so those two aspects on why he either reverts back to what he knows or simply cannot adjust on the fly are out.

Fluidity and the name Taylor should never be in the same sentence. Taylor is a product of repetition. He is taught and reminded of the same style, game plan, and technique over and over until it is ingrained into his mindset. To me thats not being fluid and certainly not being able to flow with his game plan. From his bow and arrow right to his plodding rocking motion of a stance Taylor if anything epitomizes what hard work can do for a fighter not how fluid or gifted he is.

[ReadyUp]

see it's not impossible is it???

Yeah, it is.

I think the only thing your seeing is that both have tremendous athletic ability but tire down the stretch. Shoot, while we are at it let's throw Jean-Marc Mormeck in there and say's he the cruiserweight version of Zab Judah just because he tends to fade late. Oscar fades late, is he the junior middleweight Zab Judah?


Zab is unfocused, Taylor fights off of instinct.
When you tag Zab once he goes to pieces, JT obviously doesn't.

It's apples and oranges.