I think Calzaghe is the best SMW ever.

[Burning Desire]

Calzaghe's wins over Kessler, Eubank and Hopkins are better than anything Pavlik will ever attain in his JOKE of a career.

Calzaghe has been fighting much longer than Pavlik has, why don't you compare there resumes when Calzaghe was 25 ?? Calzaghe's best wins at that time were,

Chris Eubank
Branko Sobot
Mark Delaney

Kelly Pavlik's best wins at 25.

Jermain Taylor x2
Edison Miranda
Bronco McKart
Jose Luis Zertuche

[DrewWoodside]

Calzaghe's wins over Kessler, Eubank and Hopkins are better than anything Pavlik will ever attain in his JOKE of a career.

Eubanks wasn't the same Eubank that earns real credit, and Hopkins can't get much older.. Also Calzaghe hasn't beaten oldman hop yet. Calzaghe fought a live fighter in Kessler, credit for that.

[Mr. Philadel]

I bet you wern't saying Lacy was done before the fight! The next-Mike Tyson was all we got from the American press. Then Calz completely dominates the guy and all of a sudden he's useless.

To dominate a guy the way that he did even of Lacy's now apparent mediocre pedigree at the elite-level; that was still a truly great performance.

And for me the fight against Kessler means he's proved all he has to. And surprise, surprise following the fight we get the chorus from the rest of the boxing world of "yeah but actually how good was Kessler". As you rightly point out we will have to see, EXACTLY how good. But you dont beat guys like Beyer, Andrade and Mundine without being a quality fighter. I think he will dominate a now very competitive SMW division.

First of all, Lacy had about 20 fights at the time he fought Joe, so he shouldn't even be allowed to register on a true Champs scale! As for Kessler, the guy is stiff and unathletic! He has this robot type style! Anyone who can box a little bit will beat Kessler everytime!