does a win over zab judah mean anything??

**Fox McCloud** · 02-15-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by pabcs

people still talk about this guy like hes decent. hes a bum. he has never beat an elite fighter and never will. he lost to baldomir for gods sake. does beating judah really mean anything in the world of boxing???

Sounds like Antonio Margarito.

Decent win over... ... ... no one.

Lost to Paul Williams. What a great fighter he is.

Just like Baldomir has been exposed, so has Paul Williams.

WAR PUERTO RICO!

**pabcs** · 02-15-2008, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by DWiens421

Sounds like Antonio Margarito.

Decent win over... ... ... no one.

Lost to Paul Williams. What a great fighter he is.

Just like Baldomir has been exposed, so has Paul Williams.

WAR PUERTO RICO!

i dont see no one ducking judah while the entire welterweight division is looking for reasons not to fight margarito. and you were the one of the many people saying paul williams was the future of boxing after he beat margarito.

**Fox McCloud** · 02-15-2008, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by pabcs

i dont see no one ducking judah while the entire welterweight division is looking for reasons not to fight margarito. and you were the one of the many people saying paul williams was the future of boxing after he beat margarito.

No, I wasn't... at all.

I said he was tall, and long, and active, and he had no skill or technique, and it would be a matter of time before a counterpuncher beat him.

I didn't say Quintana would beat him, because I hadn't ever seen Quintana fight. I didn't even make a call on that fight.

I did predict that both Cotto and Mayweather would beat Williams if they ever fought though.

Anyways, you know what I think of Margarito, why the **** would I proclaim someone the future of boxing after beating Auntie Marg?

**-Antonio-** · 02-15-2008, 03:50 PM

Probably doesnt mean much anymore, but after going back to the ESPN ranks to win back to back fights, Zab at least put some work in.

**Darkstar** · 02-15-2008, 03:59 PM

A win over zab means nothing. I might be the only one who think this but, I think we are overrating this Welterweight class. Besides Mayweather and Cotto a lot of credit is being gave to unproven fighters. Even Clottey is being talked about like hes a elite fighter. Only time will tell I guess........

**Killa Cam** · 02-15-2008, 04:00 PM

wen mosley loses its gon mean somthin

**HotSizzle** · 02-15-2008, 04:02 PM

It means you have what it takes to go past 4rounds.

**Unseen** · 02-15-2008, 04:06 PM

beating zab means you can handle someone very fast and sharp and who starts off good. if you are clever enough to move and last 12 rounds then you will most likely beat him if you're good.

if zab can actually start to get himself together and perform for 12 whole round without getting caught or losing his work rate then he would be a very good fighter. i think he is too fast for his own good cuz he msises a lot sometimes.

**Fox McCloud** · 02-15-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Darkstar

A win over zab means nothing. I might be the only one who think this but, I think we are overrating this Welterweight class. Besides Mayweather and Cotto a lot of credit is being gave to unproven fighters. Even Clottey is being talked about like hes a elite fighter. Only time will tell I guess........

You don't see something special in Joshua Clottey?

He has 2 losses, a DQ to Baldomir when he was up like 5 points with 2 rounds to go, and a UD to Margarito (which was close) where he broke his hand in the fourth. A one-armed Clottey lost a close decision to a guy who broke the all-time record for throwing the most punches in a fight (1,675). That seems like he is pretty special to me.

Tough, skilled, strong. This guy can fight.

does a win over zab judah mean anything??