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i see you conveniently ignored to qualify your genius statement about everyone "sweating" mayorga.your a idiot just like Vlad. I wasnt even really talking about Cotto. Did you read the post? I seperated Cotto from the rest of the group but I said that I still dont think his Mosley win was more impressive because of the fact that he's bigger then Mosley while Floyd went to 154 as the much smaller man and beat Oscar. All you fools keep bringing up Hatton but I purposley again seperated that from Cotto. Its funny how all you guys talk about is Cotto now because the other WW's give you no legs to stand on anymore
i dont care what you separated, cotto would beat de la hoyas ass, whereas floyd tickled him all night long to the tune of a SDComment
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1st of all I stand by what I said about Mayorga. You must not have been on this board around that time because cats totally were sweating him.
I also thought that alot would say that Cotto would beat Oscar but hardly anyone else. That was my point and I think it would probally be 50/50 on Cotto. As far as the fight itself, that is apples & oranges. I think its dumb for people to compare Floyd & Cotto fights when they are 2 totally different fighters who are 2 totally different sizes. If Floyd comes from 130 dont you expect Cotto to beat guys differently then him? I think its dumb for someone to say how Cotto would pound a guy but Floyd wont. So? Cotto KO's Sosa but Floyd doesnt. I think that means that Cotto is better? Yeah right. Cotto stops Zab but Floyd doesnt. That means Cotto is better? He's supposed to do that when he's a much bigger & stronger man then Floyd. That definatly doesnt make him a better fighter. Cotto also got dropped by Torres. Do you think Floyd would have any trouble with him? Its apples & oragnesComment
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yo i got ur back son.
what r u talkin bout. stiles make fites. plus cotto would get stopped by oscar. he would run into left hooks and his chin isnt good enough to hold on.Comment
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Mosley beats Oscar at 154. Despite being a little older, he has been far more active lately and is closer to his prime. Oscar is TEN YEARS away from his peak as a fighter (back when he was #1 p4p.) Oscar has been on the decline for some time as his record shows. Floyd beat an inactive, semi retired, boxing promoter way past his prime, deal with it. A win over almost all of the names you mentioned would mean more than a win over Oscar, now or last may. And the Hatton win would mean more if Collazo hadn't already spanked him in his only fight at WW.What WW win is better then Floyd's 154 pound win over Oscar. Im so sick of everyone dissing Floyd's win over Oscar like it was nothing or that it doesnt count because it was at 154. To me that makes it all the more impressive. He legitmatly beat Oscar at 154 when he had no advantages and was outweighed in the ring by 20 pounds, 168 to 148.
I think its a huge joke how people try to diss that win because it wasnt at WW. Because it wasnt at WW makes it even more special. Oscar had just killed Mayorga. Everyone was just sweating Mayorga after his win over Vargas. I dont care what anyone says, Oscar at 154 is a ton harder to beat then Williams, Margarito, Clottey, Collazo, Quintana, Zab, or even Mosley at WW.
1st of all Floyd is smaller then every single guy I just named and he beat a guy who was bigger then every single guy I just named and probally better then them all. Margarito loses to Williams and lost his 1 fight at 154 to a average guy like Santos. None of those guys who you all think are the best at WW would beat Oscar at 154. The only win that holds weight to that right now is Cotto's win over Mosley but to me thats still easily less impressive then Floyd because it was at WW and Cotto is bigger then Shane while Floyd is much smaller then Oscar.
Seriously, if you had to bet your life on it right now. Name the guys at WW that you would pick to go to 154 to beat Oscar. Name them. If Shane fights Cotto at 154 then maybe he wouldve won that fight. Maybe not but you cant argue that it doesnt change things. Cotto would still be bigger but he hasnt fought there before. I do think its ****** to say that this guy or that guy has done more at WW then Floyd when he beat a guy at a higher weight who is better then nearly every other guy at WW. He also beat a guy in Hatton who beat Callazo. I swear people diss Hatton for that win way too much. Collazo is good as **** and Hatton beat him. People ripped him because most had never heard of Callazo at the time and Hatton was seen as a beast but Collazo would give a ton of cats trouble. The bottom line is that Floyds win over Hatton and e****ally Oscar should be given way more credit then it has. Imagine of Cotto won those 2 fights? You think they hype him now? He would be the #1 rated P4P guy in boxing and be the #1 star if he had done thatComment
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For those not wanting to read the whole rant. This is what Mr. all grown up DLT had to say with 1000 words; To become #1 P4P you need to beat Oscar and Hatton.everyone dissing diss sweating Mayorga ton
Seriously, if you had to bet your life on it right now. ****** Callazo. I swear people diss Hatton for that win way too much. Collazo is good as **** and Hatton beat him. Collazo would give a ton of cats trouble. The bottom line is that Floyds win over Hatton and e****ally Oscar should be given way more credit then it has. Imagine of Cotto won those 2 fights? You think they hype him now? He would be the #1 rated P4P guy in boxing and be the #1 star if he had done thatLast edited by old68; 02-12-2008, 10:00 PM.Comment
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