Please Give Me A "Honest" Answer?

[DLT]

What WW win is better then Floyd's 154 pound win over Oscar. Im so sick of everyone dissing Floyd's win over Oscar like it was nothing or that it doesnt count because it was at 154. To me that makes it all the more impressive. He legitmatly beat Oscar at 154 when he had no advantages and was outweighed in the ring by 20 pounds, 168 to 148.

I think its a huge joke how people try to diss that win because it wasnt at WW. Because it wasnt at WW makes it even more special. Oscar had just killed Mayorga. Everyone was just sweating Mayorga after his win over Vargas. I dont care what anyone says, Oscar at 154 is a ton harder to beat then Williams, Margarito, Clottey, Collazo, Quintana, Zab, or even Mosley at WW.

1st of all Floyd is smaller then every single guy I just named and he beat a guy who was bigger then every single guy I just named and probally better then them all. Margarito loses to Williams and lost his 1 fight at 154 to a average guy like Santos. None of those guys who you all think are the best at WW would beat Oscar at 154. The only win that holds weight to that right now is Cotto's win over Mosley but to me thats still easily less impressive then Floyd because it was at WW and Cotto is bigger then Shane while Floyd is much smaller then Oscar.

Seriously, if you had to bet your life on it right now. Name the guys at WW that you would pick to go to 154 to beat Oscar. Name them. If Shane fights Cotto at 154 then maybe he wouldve won that fight. Maybe not but you cant argue that it doesnt change things. Cotto would still be bigger but he hasnt fought there before. I do think its ****** to say that this guy or that guy has done more at WW then Floyd when he beat a guy at a higher weight who is better then nearly every other guy at WW. He also beat a guy in Hatton who beat Callazo. I swear people diss Hatton for that win way too much. Collazo is good as **** and Hatton beat him. People ripped him because most had never heard of Callazo at the time and Hatton was seen as a beast but Collazo would give a ton of cats trouble. The bottom line is that Floyds win over Hatton and e****ally Oscar should be given way more credit then it has. Imagine of Cotto won those 2 fights? You think they hype him now? He would be the #1 rated P4P guy in boxing and be the #1 star if he had done that

[Welter_Skelter]

This is all you need to understand...

Some people dont like Floyd Mayweather...

Y'all need to stop taking it personally..

and stop trying to convert the non believers like y'all are on some religious crusade..

Some people dont like Floyd Mayweather... and the sun will still rise tomorrow and life will go on...

Know what I mean???

[2501]

honeslty guy, someone as in love with Mayweather as you are will never really be able to give an objective opinion on his career or careers of those who want to or who he should be facing. but you may be able to find your answer in this thread.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155546

[kayjay]

Did DLT just write another 1000 words complaining about the fact that some people are not Mayweather fans?


I don't read what he writes

[Vladimir303]

What WW win is better then Floyd's 154 pound win over Oscar. Im so sick of everyone dissing Floyd's win over Oscar like it was nothing or that it doesnt count because it was at 154. To me that makes it all the more impressive. He legitmatly beat Oscar at 154 when he had no advantages and was outweighed in the ring by 20 pounds, 168 to 148.

I think its a huge joke how people try to diss that win because it wasnt at WW. Because it wasnt at WW makes it even more special. Oscar had just killed Mayorga. Everyone was just sweating Mayorga after his win over Vargas. I dont care what anyone says, Oscar at 154 is a ton harder to beat then Williams, Margarito, Clottey, Collazo, Quintana, Zab, or even Mosley at WW.

1st of all Floyd is smaller then every single guy I just named and he beat a guy who was bigger then every single guy I just named and probally better then them all. Margarito loses to Williams and lost his 1 fight at 154 to a average guy like Santos. None of those guys who you all think are the best at WW would beat Oscar at 154. The only win that holds weight to that right now is Cotto's win over Mosley but to me thats still easily less impressive then Floyd because it was at WW and Cotto is bigger then Shane while Floyd is much smaller then Oscar.

Seriously, if you had to bet your life on it right now. Name the guys at WW that you would pick to go to 154 to beat Oscar. Name them. If Shane fights Cotto at 154 then maybe he wouldve won that fight. Maybe not but you cant argue that it doesnt change things. Cotto would still be bigger but he hasnt fought there before. I do think its ****** to say that this guy or that guy has done more at WW then Floyd when he beat a guy at a higher weight who is better then nearly every other guy at WW. He also beat a guy in Hatton who beat Callazo. I swear people diss Hatton for that win way too much. Collazo is good as **** and Hatton beat him. People ripped him because most had never heard of Callazo at the time and Hatton was seen as a beast but Collazo would give a ton of cats trouble. The bottom line is that Floyds win over Hatton and e****ally Oscar should be given way more credit then it has. Imagine of Cotto won those 2 fights? You think they hype him now? He would be the #1 rated P4P guy in boxing and be the #1 star if he had done that

I agree with most of what you said but you done took it too far with this rough draft. Too emotional and there is a few replies you can expect to counter your post.

Starting with, Hatton beating Collazo. Yes he defeated him but he barely defeated him. Shane Mosley dominated Collazo and then he lost to Cotto in a good fight. That should tell you everything. Not only is Mosley better then Collazo BUT he is better then Hatton. Cotto's win over Mosley TRUMPS Floyd's win over Hatton. Other then that, you're pretty much right.

The May 5th 2007 version of Oscar that Floyd has fought, beats pretty much everybody, Margarito particulary. Mosley could still give Oscar problems. We can't count out Cotto because he keeps proving us all wrong time and time again.

Other then those two, Williams, Cintron, Clottey, Quintana, Berto Margarito, Collazo, Hatton, Judah, Baldomir all lose to Oscar.

Which makes Floyd win over Golden Boy a good accomplishment despite Oscar being past his prime.

[SkillspayBills]

DLT you take this **** way to personally budd. Some people won't like Floyd, it is what it is man.

[Derranged]

This is all you need to understand...

Some people dont like Floyd Mayweather...

Y'all need to stop taking it personally..

and stop trying to convert the non believers like y'all are on some religious crusade..

Some people dont like Floyd Mayweather... and the sun will still rise tomorrow and life will go on...

Know what I mean???

Hahaha this is the post of the day...

[DLT]

DLT you take this **** way to personally budd. Some people won't like Floyd, it is what it is man.

I take this **** seriously because its "history". People dont look at it that way. People's hate for a guy can literaly change history and make him not be looked at as good as he should be. Its not like its just fans. Its fans and media and that **** isnt right. I swear Cotto & Floyd could fight the same exact guys and have the same exact wins but Floyd would come out looking like a bum while Cotto gets hailed as Boxing's Super Star.

On the flip side thats why I love it when Floyd keep's winning and makes these clowns hate him even more. The reason why Im invested in this is because I was a Floyd fan before most anyone. I saw him in his 3rd fight and he was instantly my favorite fighter. I told everyone that he would be the best fighter in the world. Most cats are new to Floyd or came in later on. I was the only one in my whole hood who gave a ****. Everyone was on guys like Tito, Mosley, RJ, and so on. People act like Floyd was the #1 guy for a hundred years. He just became that. Even when he was killing cats they would never put him over any of those guys until they lost and when he finally got there people immediatly tried to find a way to remove him when they didnt do that to the others.

You feel what Im saying? Before everyone was Floyd fans I was there back in the day when no one really respected him on that high of a level. Im not one of these guys who just hang on or come when there already big

[NachoMan]

Floyd got the decision against ODLH, but I for one was not impressed by Floyd's performance in that fight. He impressed against Hatton though.

[DLT]

honeslty guy, someone as in love with Mayweather as you are will never really be able to give an objective opinion on his career or careers of those who want to or who he should be facing. but you may be able to find your answer in this thread.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155546

How do you figure? I could say the exact same thing about you the opposite way. I hate it when guys say **** but dont look in the mirror. You have so much hate for him that you cant say nothing good about him