Floyd Would Never Lose

[Bhopreign]

One thing I always follow carefully is boxing odds. Hernandez opened as the favorite but Floyd was favored by fight time. The only two other fights where he may have been less than 2-1 were Corrales and DLH, but he definitely was the betting favorite in both fights.

Using Baldomir to measure Mayweather's greatness is only a little less absurd than using Vinnie Pazienza to measure Roy Jones, or Golden Johnson to Margarito.

Its funny how people can miss a point. The thread is simply stating that if Floyd fought as defensively as he did against Baldy and potshotted all night long, nobody would beat him. The only reason Baldy's name is in this thread is because of the style he used in that fight. Who would beat Floyd when he does that? HBO knows it and so do haters, thats why they are always looking for BIGGER fighters to match Floyd against. Since when has quantity equaled quality, never. I doubt Floyd closed as the favorite in the Hernandez fight, first title fight.

[Fox McCloud]

Its funny how people can miss a point. The thread is simply stating that if Floyd fought as defensively as he did against Baldy and potshotted all night long, nobody would beat him. The only reason Baldy's name is in this thread is because of the style he used in that fight. Who would beat Floyd when he does that? HBO knows it and so do haters, thats why they are always looking for BIGGER fighters to match Floyd against. Since when has quantity equaled quality, never. I doubt Floyd closed as the favorite in the Hernandez fight, first title fight.

It happened with Sultan Ibragimov against Shannon Briggs...

If there is a prospect that is hotter than fire, then it is not unfathomable that they would be favored.

I would be willing to bet that Fernando Vargas was favored in his first title shot, De La Hoya too.

[letsgobrady]

You're making a joke, right? Floyd hasn't been an underdog even once in his entire career.

against coralles he was the underdog that was the last time

[2501]

Every fighter they match him up against they do it like they are trying to do with Cotto now. Saying Cotto can beat him, he wont withstand this or that about this or that fight. When the fight gets close some people shift a bit but the trend remains.. After the fights all his opponents are almost immediatly promoted to ****. Where are all the Oscar fans? Noone cares about Oscar nomore it seems. All the Hatton fans? They were duzens, now reduced to some 2 or 3 brits. They are like ticks, holding on to who's balls are hotter.

And his opposition is mainly chosen on the basis of "who can beat Floyd" with rare exceptions like the champions he has beat. The man has been a champion his whole career cept for 8 months! Noone gives him much credit for that though.

shut the **** up. all you ever do is make up **** just for the sake of your "argument. of course there are people saying that Cotto can beat Mayweather but they arent the majority. The majority knows that Mayweather would most likely defeat Cotto but it is not whether he can beat him or not, its about WHO he should be fighting.

Fans like you always try to make it seem like Floyd is always the underdog and Floyd is always chosen to lose.

"Everyone said Baldy was supposed to beat Floyd"
"Everyone said Gatti was supposed to beat Floyd"
"Everyone said Mitchell was supposed to beat Floyd"
"Everyone said De La Hoya was supposed to beat Floyd"
"Everyone said Hatton was supposed to beat Floyd"

And now its this

Saying Cotto can beat him, he wont withstand this or that about this or that fight.

Really? Are you sure about that? It kind of seems to me that anyone with any real unbiased boxing knowledge knows that a victory for Cotto would be less likely as proven by these various polls..

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152444&highlight=Cotto+Mayweather

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7213

And the same has been for most of Mayweather's fights.

vs. De La Hoya

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160283&highlight=Mayweather+Hoya

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=4516

vs. Hatton

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=5825

So where the **** is this overwhelming majority that always chooses Mayweather to lose?

[2501]

The thread is simply stating that if Floyd fought as defensively as he did against Baldy and potshotted all night long, nobody would beat him.

Any quick fighter can win like that but the majority does not choose to.

[letsgobrady]

Its funny how people can miss a point. The thread is simply stating that if Floyd fought as defensively as he did against Baldy and potshotted all night long, nobody would beat him. The only reason Baldy's name is in this thread is because of the style he used in that fight. Who would beat Floyd when he does that? HBO knows it and so do haters, thats why they are always looking for BIGGER fighters to match Floyd against. Since when has quantity equaled quality, never. I doubt Floyd closed as the favorite in the Hernandez fight, first title fight.

i think if floyd keeps fighting as defensive as he has in his last 3 fights that williams cotto mosley and margarito all have a shot at beating floyd

[Fox McCloud]

against coralles he was the underdog that was the last time

Corrales was a 7-5 underdog, as reported by HBO on fight night.

[Fox McCloud]

i think if floyd keeps fighting as defensive as he has in his last 3 fights that williams cotto mosley and margarito all have a shot at beating floyd

So Floyd playing to his strengths and controlling the pace of the bout favors... his opponent?

I don't get it.

[2501]

So Floyd playing to his strengths and controlling the pace of the bout favors... his opponent?

I don't get it.

yeah, i dont think Floyd can get touched fighting the way he does which would be impressive against Williams and Cotto because of THEIR strengths.

[Bhopreign]

It happened with Sultan Ibragimov against Shannon Briggs...

If there is a prospect that is hotter than fire, then it is not unfathomable that they would be favored.

I would be willing to bet that Fernando Vargas was favored in his first title shot, De La Hoya too.

I understand that, but Floyd hadnt beating anyone until Hernandez. His fights up until then werent against anything to caliber with Hernandez, Im sure its online somewhere to find but I dont feel like looking for it.