Carlos Quintana "Punishes" Paul Williams To Win

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  • Undefeated
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    #71
    Listen, what ya don't get is this.

    Williams wasn't able to utilize his punch output because Quintana was moving. Unlike Margarito or anyone Williams has fought would stay in front of him.

    The excuses of saying
    "It wasn't his night"

    It's crap. He finally fought a "Boxer" and look what happened.

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    • WLAD OWNS
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      #72
      Originally posted by Undefeated
      Listen, what ya don't get is this.

      Williams wasn't able to utilize his punch output because Quintana was moving. Unlike Margarito or anyone Williams has fought would stay in front of him.

      The excuses of saying
      "It wasn't his night"

      It's crap. He finally fought a "Boxer" and look what happened.
      Agreed...Quintana was too slick for Williams, he outboxed his ass and was landing hard left hands at will.

      STYLES MAKE FIGHTS

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      • oldgringo
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        #73
        Originally posted by rebmogul
        How was it so amazing? Other than a CONTROVERSIAL win over Margarito, another B fighter, who did Paul beat that made this loss so amazing? I'm not trying to argue, I just don't see it. What has he done?
        The fact that 95% of the boxing public plugged Williams to coast...now shut it.

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        • Boxinguru
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          #74
          I've been saying for the longest that this "boxing's most feared/avoided man" in Williams was pre-mature...He has the freakish frame (6'1, southpaw, highly acitve) & yeah he beat Margarito (who's nothing more than an overated "B" fighter himself) but who else? What has he really proven? If nothing else it shows that Cotto is DEFINITELY the #1 Contender in the Welterweight Division...

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          • jawsmafia
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            #75
            i had work so i couldn't watch the fight, this is the first thing i see when i come to BS and I think to myself OH MY ****ING GOD PAUL WILLIAMS LOST, i need to watch this fight, i can't beleive williams lost. Where does he go from here?

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            • NeXt In Line
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              #76
              Yo this **** is crazy, I went out tonight and partied with my buddies, come back and find out PAUL WILLIAMS LOST?! Crazy ****, but I can't say I'm too too shocked because Quintana proved that he's worth his hype/talk. Yes, Cotto beat his ass, but taht doesn't mean Cotto would rumble Williams.

              Crazyyyyyy **** mang.

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              • Hitman88
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                #77
                observations.......

                Originally posted by wengz2002
                It's funny~~~
                When some claims he's the most "AVOIDED" fighter of the World, ends up losing!!!

                Harold Lederman is a Joke!!! I don't known when will HBO fire him~~~
                Many of the fights he covered & scores are way different...
                I was thinking the exact same sentiment. A year ago it was Margarito who was the self proclaimed baddest and most avoided fighter at 147. He then almost gets his title taken by Clottey (who would've decisioned him easily if not for the hand injury suffered in the middle rds) and gets out-pointed by Williams after getting off to a slow start. Subsequently, Williams runs w/ the "Mr Avoided" namesake then gets beat soundly during his 1st defense by Quintana who was seen a little over a year ago sprawling in pain from a slew of Cotto body shots. There is no most feared fighter at 147. You've got your upper echelon fighter, several very good fighters, some decent fighters, a couple sound prospects, some mediocre & of course your resident bums. Williams is only reminiscent of Tommy Hearns in regards to physical size, but lacks the world class jab & more importantly the knock out power to be mentioned in the same vein as the "Motor City Cobra". He may have a slightly better chin, however, I suggest he settles on a wgt class that wont leave him drained to the pt where he cant continue to avg 1000+ punches per fight (the high output is necessary for his success). Say what you will, but no fighter currently at 147 has the proper skill set to best mayweather while he's still in his prime (Im sure many will say different or start campaigning for Cotto). Miguel may very well be the 2nd best fighter in the division but the disparity between numero uno & dos is vast. Cotto showed signs of growth against mosely; however, his boxing ability simply isnt in the class of mayweather's right now. Nonetheless, I still feel Cotto has earned his place in the 'money may' sweestakes, and wins over gomez as well as the winner of cintron/margarito will more than solidify that spot. The only way he will maintain that distinction is to keep that '0' in tact.
                Last edited by Hitman88; 02-10-2008, 03:22 AM.

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                • rebmogul
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                  I don't get the finality in everyone writing Williams off. He lost to a good fighter in a close fight at a weight he doesn't need to be at.

                  I'm not sure if it's the weight issue, Williams' inactivity, or just an inability to adjust to Quintana's mobility, but that was not the same Williams who stepped in against Margarito. Williams wasn't using his jab or throwing enough punches. Anytime Williams throws less than 100 punches, he's not fighting his style.

                  Believe this, if Williams wins a rematch, the bandwagon will be back in full force.
                  both quintana and pw are feather fisted and that is a good thing for pw. however, quintana can BOX.

                  paul can't punch and has no defense. he's history. and that doesn't say much for margarito either. he's probably a "b" fighter also? we'll know this year....

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                  • Boxingwizard
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                    #79
                    Also, if having the skill- or luck- to become welterweight champion doesn't come with the ability to use his height advantage, when will he do so reliably? If it's not end of the road it's definitely close to it. With the surely mounting criticism he'll endure after this loss, and the flaws Quintana highlighted- though many were already known- Paul Williams is in serious trouble. If after 34 professional fights Paul Williams can't do the simple things like fighting tall and showing good defense his odds of regaining his crown seem slim.

                    In many ways Paul Williams is dead. At least as we knew him. One way or the other he needs to be.
                    Well whats the point of hyping a fighter up if you knew he wasn't highly skilled in the first place. Obviously you bought into his hype, but you couldn't see his weakness, which is basically his overall technical skills. People label him as the next Thomas Hearns, but how can he be the next Thomas Hearns if he doesn't know how to use his height as an advantage? I've known about his weakness for a long time, yet people kept hyping him as the next best thing in boxing, and some of these people know more about boxing than me. You're going to hype a fighter, you have to know that he's legit, like Chad Dawson. Here's a quote from the movie Kiss The Girls, "Skills is what helps you compete at a higher level, not power, not speed".
                    Last edited by Boxingwizard; 02-10-2008, 04:26 AM.

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                    • rebmogul
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by oldgringo
                      The fact that 95% of the boxing public plugged Williams to coast...now shut it.
                      you seem to know as much about boxing as i do about fat white broads, and that aint ****.

                      stick to the fat white broads homey, and leave boxing alone cuz you don't
                      know SHEEIT...

                      now take the loss like a man. get off your knees, wipe off your chin, pull your pants up and try to stand up and be the man your momma raised you to be

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