My thoughts on Pavlik's chances against Calzaghe...

[Fox McCloud]

I don't think he has a shot in hell.

A middleweight who is a carbon copy of Mikkel Kessler almost is not going to be able to move up in weight against a guy who kills himself to make 168 and do any better than the natural SMW who has good technique and great punching power (exactly like Pavlik) does.

I'm not sold on Pavlik at all. I originally thought he was a brawler who doesn't use his brain after his fight with Miranda, but I was clearly wrong.

After he beat Taylor, I figured out that he does have some good technique to keep himself afloat, and he does have some pretty good punching power.

However, everyone is acting like he can knock Chad Dawson out with ease... it takes a middleweight 6 rounds to put another middleweight to sleep, and people think that this is going to be able to punch a hole in everything up to David Haye? What a joke.

Taylor's lack of activity let Kelly tee off at times, and if there is one thing that Calzaghe does, it is never letting himself get into a time where he is showing a "lack of activity".

Joe Calzaghe... WIDE UD, or possibly Jack Loew throwing in the towel because it is so one-sided.

[boxingknight]

Pavliks ppl aren't dumb enough to put there boy against Calzaghe. Calzaghe should be chasing a fight with Pavlik, calling the boy out but Pavlik isn't dumb enough to step in the ring with someone like Calzaghe. And Pavlik ain't ****, Kessler would probably ko pavlik.

Hell, if Taylor wasn't such a moron I would favor him over Pavlik any day. But Taylor is kind of dumb, and most likely will lose in the rematch, then he'll retire and make love with how much he has made in his career. Is he richest man alive? No, but he has more money then most will ever have in their hands.

[W1LL]

My ****ing God. Where did you manage to come up with the idea that Pavlik is a carbon copy of Kessler? That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum.

Pavlik would carry the weight well at Super Middle, as he looks skinny at his chosen weight. He's got the power that would likely move up with him too. Calzaghe would probably outbox him, but Pavlik would be there all the way giving Calzaghe alot to think about. I think Pavlik could be a threat to anyone up to and including Light Heavy.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

My ****ing God. Where did you manage to come up with the idea that Pavlik is a carbon copy of Kessler? That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum.

Pavlik would carry the weight well at Super Middle, as he looks skinny at his chosen weight. He's got the power that would likely move up with him too. Calzaghe would probably outbox him, but Pavlik would be there all the way giving Calzaghe alot to think about. I think Pavlik could be a threat to anyone up to and including Light Heavy.

pavlik is not a carbon copy of kessler your right. Kessler's punches are far more accurate and crisp and he has a better jab. Pavlik throws a higher volume of punches which in the most part are pretty slow. Kelly is definitely a better combination puncher and when he has his man hurt is probably the best finisher in the game right now.

However regarding a calzaghe fight, i see no way he wins. Pavlik would be too slow and predictable for joe, who's movement, combination speed and chin would see him ease out a pretty comfortable UD in my opinion

[skyler]

I think your right about him getting beat by calzaghe but i give him the punchers chance, but him being a copy of Kessler? no away.. Kessler has the faster hands a tighter defence and better footwork and Pavlik has the power.

[Silencers]

I agree with the others that posted here. Pavlik is in no way a carbon copy of Kessler for reasons already stated.

Pavlik will have a puncher's chance against Calzaghe but apart from that, Calzaghe is too fast and too experienced for him.

[Fox McCloud]

My ****ing God. Where did you manage to come up with the idea that Pavlik is a carbon copy of Kessler? That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum.

Pavlik would carry the weight well at Super Middle, as he looks skinny at his chosen weight. He's got the power that would likely move up with him too. Calzaghe would probably outbox him, but Pavlik would be there all the way giving Calzaghe alot to think about. I think Pavlik could be a threat to anyone up to and including Light Heavy.

Really?

So apparantly Kelly Pavlik would do some **** that Calzaghe didn't see when he fought Kessler?

Yes smart ass, I know they don't fight the exact same as one another, but for comparison's sake for fighting Calzaghe, they are close enough to make it so the fight would probably look the same way for the most part.

[W1LL]

Really?

So apparantly Kelly Pavlik would do some **** that Calzaghe didn't see when he fought Kessler?

Yes smart ass, I know they don't fight the exact same as one another, but for comparison's sake for fighting Calzaghe, they are close enough to make it so the fight would probably look the same way for the most part.

Mikkel Kessler has a typical European style of fighting. Kelly Pavlik has anything but. I am 100% certain Pavlik would do things in a fight against Joe Calzaghe which Kessler didn't do. If you can honestly look at the two of them and not see differences then I would suggest you find another sport as you obviously don't have a clue about boxing.

I agree that the fight would look the same for the most part, but that is down to Calzaghe being as good as he is. Kessler was good technically so he was able to keep it close all the way. Pavlik wouldn't have a chance as far as that is concerned, but if you know about Calzaghes history, you'd know he hasn't had it all his own way against some awkward, unpredictable pressure fighters in the past. Pavlik might even tempt him into a war.

[CardioMonster]

Kessler is nothing like Pavlik. Kessler is far more polished boxer with greater 1 punch power. Pavlik in my opinion is wild, chinny and overrated.

[Fox McCloud]

Mikkel Kessler has a typical European style of fighting. Kelly Pavlik has anything but. I am 100% certain Pavlik would do things in a fight against Joe Calzaghe which Kessler didn't do. If you can honestly look at the two of them and not see differences then I would suggest you find another sport as you obviously don't have a clue about boxing.

I agree that the fight would look the same for the most part, but that is down to Calzaghe being as good as he is. Kessler was good technically so he was able to keep it close all the way. Pavlik wouldn't have a chance as far as that is concerned, but if you know about Calzaghes history, you'd know he hasn't had it all his own way against some awkward, unpredictable pressure fighters in the past. Pavlik might even tempt him into a war.

Pavlik against Taylor showed me that Pavlik stands in front of his opponent and relies on the 1-2 for the most part, and relies on his power a lot.

Kessler showed me the same thing against Calzaghe.

Like I said, they are not the same fighter, and they do not box with the exact same style, but I really think that Pavlik is too technical to make much of a difference against Calzaghe.

Seriously... Pavlik beat Miranda for the most part because his straight punches got there faster than Miranda's typical punch. He also looked pretty technically solid against Taylor. I don't know if it is in his arsenal to become a crazy ass, Mayorga/Miranda type of brawler, and if he does, we have no idea if he would even be remotely effective doing so.