How do you rank the Welterweights?

[Jim Jeffries]

If you were to rank them according to level of opposition beaten at WW, Floyd would not be #1. Miguel would be. Cotto has faced the better comp at that weight.

Quintana/Judah/Mosley > Mitchel/Baldomir/Judah.

Not to mention that Cotto has beaten several of the same opponents as Mayweather in much more impressive fashion:

Zab Judah, TKO 11 vs UD 12
Chop Chop Corley, TKO 5 vs UD 12
Victoranio Sosa, TKO 4 vs UD 12
Justin Juuko, TKO 5 (in Miguel's 10th fight) vs KO 9

[My Name Is...]

Not to mention that Cotto has beaten several of the same opponents as Mayweather in much more impressive fashion:

Zab Judah, TKO 11 vs UD 12
Chop Chop Corley, TKO 5 vs UD 12
Victoranio Sosa, TKO 4 vs UD 12
Justin Juuko, TKO 5 (in Miguel's 10th fight) vs KO 9

do you realize this is AFTER Floyd beat them. Meaning they didnt have as much in the tank after getting a beating from Floydb when they fought Cotto. But I guess that doesnt mean anything to CASUAL FANS.

[rebmogul]

1. Cotto
2. Mosley
3. Margarito
4. Williams
5. Cintron
6. Mayweather
7-10. Who cares?

[deevel79]

do you realize this is AFTER Floyd beat them. Meaning they didnt have as much in the tank after getting a beating from Floydb when they fought Cotto. But I guess that doesnt mean anything to CASUAL FANS.

If u wanna use the "Floyd softened them up for Cotto" analogy, then u can use the same analogy for 98% of Floyds opponents. They too were softened up by somebody prior to Floyd facing them.

[Jim Jeffries]

do you realize this is AFTER Floyd beat them. Meaning they didnt have as much in the tank after getting a beating from Floydb when they fought Cotto. But I guess that doesnt mean anything to CASUAL FANS.

In three of those fights, they went the distance with Floyd and didn't get a "beating" as you say. Hopkins lost his first fight as a pro, so I guess according to you logic, his loss to Jones Jr meant nothing.

Also by your logic, Floyd's wins over Castillo, DLH, Judah, Baldomir, Mitchell, etc, hell his whole resume except for Corrales and Hatton (who had already arguably lost to Collazo) mean nothing either, correct?

[My Name Is...]

If u wanna use the "Floyd softened them up for Cotto" analogy, then u can use the same analogy for 98% of Floyds opponents. They too were softened up by somebody prior to Floyd facing them.

there is a difference in getting an ass beating then fighting than just losing and fighting after. You never fuly recover froma beating. And also so they fought Cotto like 1-2 years AFTER Floyd gave them a beating.

[My Name Is...]

Floyd gave everyone a beating except for Castillo when he fought 140 and under. Whether it went all 12 or was a knockout, name me another fighter other than CAstillo that won more than 3 rounds

[Jim Jeffries]

Floyd gave everyone a beating except for Castillo when he fought 140 and under. Whether it went all 12 or was a knockout, name me another fighter other than CAstillo that won more than 3 rounds

What does that have to do with Judah (who had just been "softened" up by Baldomir in his fight prior to Floyd)? What does winning rounds have to do with softening a fighter? Hatton won 11 rounds to 1 against Urango, can you honestly say he "softened" him up in that fight? Juan has KO'd his two opponents early since then, BTW.

[SkillspayBills]

1. Paul Williams
2. Antonio Margarito
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Joshua Clottey
6. Kermit Cintron
7. Shane Mosley
8. Zab Judah
9. Luis Collazo
10. Jackson Bonsu

Just my 2 cents. I know boxing.

With a list like that, I beg to differ.

[deevel79]

What does that have to do with Judah (who had just been "softened" up by Baldomir in his fight prior to Floyd)? What does winning rounds have to do with softening a fighter? Hatton won 11 rounds to 1 against Urango, can you honestly say he "softened" him up in that fight? Juan has KO'd his two opponents early since then, BTW.

Htown is just madd because i posted the truth! Cotto's opposition at WW trumps Floyds!