They're using Williams as a Pawn to erase Cotto

[tredh]

Its so true, ive thought that for a while, guys like Forrest and Williams who are rangy, tall, high-output fighters would give mayweather real problems.

I can agree with Forrest giving PBF problems but I don't agree with Williams right now. Williams doesn't fight tall or behind a authoritative jab. Williams work rate is actually poor considering the amount of quality punches he throws in that big ass amount of punches he throws. Offense as your defense will not work against somebody as skilled and smart as PBF is right now. Once Williams really learns how to use his height as a advantage, throw a real authoritative jab and set up serious combos off that jab then he will give PBF problems but as of right now I don't see it.

[Technical_Skill]

I can agree with Forrest giving PBF problems but I don't agree with Williams right now. Williams doesn't fight tall or behind a authoritative jab. Williams work rate is actually poor considering the amount of quality punches he throws in that big ass amount of punches he throws. Offense as you defense will not work against somebody as skilled and smart as PBF is right now. Oce Williams really learns how to use his height as a advantage, throw a real authoritative jab and set up serious combos off that jab then he will give PBF but as of right now I don't see it.

I can live with that, but Williams is gonna get better with time, Forrest would deffo give mayweather issues, thing is, forrest defenisively isnt as good as people think, Floyd is beatable though, use a jab on him and fire shots off it, or time him coming inside (which is hard because he tends to throw one shot at a time) and you have a good chance.

[pbftxrs316]

Just ****ing ******ed. PBF beats both Cotto and Williams right now. PBF best bet is to fight Williams sooner than later. Once Williams learns how to fight tall and throw his jab with authority it will make him very hard to beat. Right now Williams is very beatable for a very skilled and smart boxer such as PBF. But once Williams learns to fight tall and throw real punches and combos instead of just throwing punches to throw them he could be a lot like Hearns. We all just about saw how Leonard vs. Hearns I went.

the difference is though is that floyd is more pronouncd with his defense than leonard was, which is why i don't care how williams fight, floyd's defense is too good for him, and he controls the pace too good for paul. paul would have to fight tall against floyd, but he would have to do this in at a tempered pace and not waste too maby punches, because floyd is accurate as **** and can counter to the body very well which many people on here seem to forget. floyd is a great body counterpuncher which he would have to be against paul who if he fought tall. i don't see any style at 147 beating floyd period.

[JoeJacoby]

I agree about Williams being overrated. I don't even see the fascination with him TBH. He's tall, throws tons of punches alot that don't land, big reach and throws a slapping jab and is southpaw. Against Marg, alot of his punches were being blocked but he started so late he cost himself the fight. The 10th round, he was getting beaten up and he was holding on, his face was more bruised than Marg which is funny considering he calls himself "The Punisher". I give him credit he held on to win a close one but that is all he has done.

His fights vs. Pakau, Mathyse, Mitchell weren't that great, and he does get hit alot. The rest of his record is pretty pathetic, until he fought Mathyse the guys on his record was packed with losing records. I remember reading that Cotto before Mosley was his opponent last November, said he didn't have a problem fighting him because he didn't see the big fascination except that he threw ton of punches and was tall and long. Williams seems a little obsessed with Cotto trying to piggyback him too, following him to Puerto Rico and even training there all the time, why not try to build a fanbase in I don't know back home? He's like DLH who stalked Trinidad and moved to his island to be near him.

[tredh]

I agree about Williams being overrated. I don't even see the fascination with him TBH. He's tall, throws tons of punches alot that don't land, big reach and throws a slapping jab and is southpaw. Against Marg, alot of his punches were being blocked but he started so late he cost himself the fight. The 10th round, he was getting beaten up and he was holding on, his face was more bruised than Marg which is funny considering he calls himself "The Punisher". I give him credit he held on to win a close one but that is all he has done.

His fights vs. Pakau, Mathyse, Mitchell weren't that great, and he does get hit alot. The rest of his record is pretty pathetic, until he fought Mathyse the guys on his record was packed with losing records. I remember reading that Cotto before Mosley was his opponent last November, said he didn't have a problem fighting him because he didn't see the big fascination except that he threw ton of punches and was tall and long. Williams seems a little obsessed with Cotto trying to piggyback him too, following him to Puerto Rico and even training there all the time, why not try to build a fanbase in I don't know back home? He's like DLH who stalked Trinidad and moved to his island to be near him.

I didn't even read you post yet just wanted to say I repsect your screen name. That is a man who should be a HOF offensive lineman. One of the original "HOGS". Don't stand in front of Jacoby on the good ole "Counter Trey". Nothing else more needs to be said.