Floyd SHOULD fight Oscar Again, and I Would too

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  • THE REED
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    #21
    i agree on 99% of what you said...


    the 1% i dont agree on is... he made 24 - 28 million for oscar and right around 20 million for ricky hatton... he made around 55 million in 2007.. those were the forbes numbers

    number two is cotto wont bring 20 million to the table it would be more like 12 - 15 million....



    building that wealth is about fighting people the casual boxing fan knows..... for every 10 casual boxing fans, there is 1 boxing enthusiast, like ourselves... thats where the money comes from... fighting a name like oscar de la hoya where 10 people know who he is... rather than fighting a cotto, where only the one person knows who he is...

    oscar brings more money agreeed



    FORBS.COM
    "Boxer Floyd Mayweather enjoyed his best year ever. He collected a total of $50 million for his May and December fights against Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, respectively. "

    http://www.forbes.com/media/2008/02/...xes=relstories
    Last edited by THE REED; 02-04-2008, 11:01 PM.

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      #22
      i posted the link above

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      • Addison
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        #23
        Originally posted by Horus
        Floyd SHOULD fight Oscar Again, and I Would too:


        *Anybody can tell you as a fan I want Floyd and Cotto to fight….
        However, my thinking is not of a 100% fan
        I am 50% fan and a 50% Realist and I think as such....
        In addition, because of that I would fight Oscar again too if I was Floyd.
        And also fight Cotto too if I was Floyd, but the Oscar fight would have priority over the cotto Fight for obvious reason

        Some People would say: “r u going to tell me that mayweather-dlh 2 is more meaningful in the world of boxing than mayweather-cotto”


        No i am not going to tell you that, but I will tell you that every boxer in the world put himself or herself before the sport of boxing....
        Now you tell me who does not do that, and I will show you a liar...



        My Argument for Common Sense:


        Most you people on here are Plain and Simple in your thinking... Who don’t think outside the box... That is why probably some of you guys and you guys favorite boxers are in bad shape in your and their life...Because yall got too many Squares in your Circle



        When you think of Successful People in this world like Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Michael Jordan, Oscar De La Hoya they all have one thing in common

        They all transcended what they did.... Outside what they did by following a Simple Rule that they teach you in any Beginners Business Class

        *Business 101
        Maximized your Profit with the less amount of Risk Necessary and most publicity...

        However, some you guys do not think like that, you guys think with your Ass, and not with your Head...


        [Mayweather is breaking the mold...Cant you see that..[
        This dude is laying out a format in which you see Boxers are going to start following...

        TAKING CONTROL OF THIER own CAREER... and not being somebody’s investment like a horse

        Example:
        Margarito did this in order to fight Paul Williams


        You have to understand man, this is people lives:


        -Boxing is not a sport for them as it is for you and me-
        -Boxing is their JOB...- This is really, what feel their families

        This is why I can really appreciate what he is doing because I would do the same thing if I were him and boxing was my JOB...

        That is why I follow this rule of business of Maximized your Profit with the less amount of Risk Necessary and most publicity.
        Everyday when I invest my time and money in anything I do... Because I want to be like Ball Gates, Oscar De La hoya, and yes Floyd Mayweather.... Because they all are recognized as the best as what they do, and transcended what they do and are RICH DOING IT...



        *To understand boxing (the business), you have to understand the game!

        There are three stages to any good boxer's career.

        1) Fight the easy fights. Burgers, chumps, etc... For experience and to build your record. (No disrespect to burgers and chumps).

        2) Fight other good prospects (undefeated, 1's and 2's, etc...) to separate yourself from the rest, make a name for yourself.

        3) Enter Club Elite. Picking and choosing, fighting the fights that mean something to your legacy and your bank account!

        Now think of any Great Fighter and you tell me who didn’t follow this Process to Success...



        Put this now in Perspective:


        Oscar only has this year Left before he is not a draw no more

        Now if you was Floyd would you fight Oscar while he is still Viable for 50 Million right now

        Or

        On the other hand, you can fight Cotto anytime for 20 Million while cotto is still young....

        Cotto is only 27 he is not going nowhere
        However, Oscar is going somewhere and that somewhere is gone after 2008 Oscar is threw....


        Therefore, you would turn down a short time offer of 50 million Dollars

        For an Anytime Offer of 20 million Dollars..??


        Some of You acting like Floyd is 40 years old and this is his last fight before he really retires...he is only 30 years old...

        In addition, he has a chance to be a big star like Oscar...
        With another 50 million dollar fight with Oscar
        Moreover, follow up with
        A 20 million fight with Cotto

        Tell me that is not smart...

        I would do it and im sure, you would too...

        Oscar only has this year Left before he is not a draw no more
        Cotto still has 5 years left....



        If you are Floyd and you are trying to build up a promotional company, record label, keep founding your many foundations...and numerous other business options such as a "Casino" (which he said he wanted to do)

        WHY WOULD YOU TURN DOWN 50 million to fight Oscar when you need this money in order to fulfill all your DREAMS...?

        YOU would be a fool not to fight Oscar again...
        The reason the first fight was succesful was because about 1.5 million fairweather "fans" bought into the hype, Oscar's name, and Floyd's P4P status. Virtually none of these people felt good about that purchase.

        To do this again when everyone still has a bad taste in their mouth makes no business sense whatsoever. Although it will still make some tickets.


        That besides, nobody should give a **** how much money these rich people make. Finding a cure for cancer would eliminate billions and trillions of dollars from the economy. Does that mean we shouldn't find a cure?

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        • F-22 Raptor
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          #24
          Originally posted by Addison
          The reason the first fight was succesful was because about 1.5 million fairweather "fans" bought into the hype, Oscar's name, and Floyd's P4P status. Virtually none of these people felt good about that purchase.

          To do this again when everyone still has a bad taste in their mouth makes no business sense whatsoever. Although it will still make some tickets.


          That besides, nobody should give a **** how much money these rich people make. Finding a cure for cancer would eliminate billions and trillions of dollars from the economy. Does that mean we shouldn't find a cure?
          Addison do you approve of Horus's constant Floyd-lovey-dovey threads?

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          • Addison
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            #25
            Originally posted by toincito
            Addison do you approve of Horus's constant Floyd-lovey-dovey threads?
            Horus is pretty new, I'm not very familiar with him.

            What do you think about them, Toincito?

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            • juanroldan
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              #26
              Originally posted by deevel79
              If every boxer started following in Floyd's footsteps, we can all kiss the sport of boxing goodbye!
              exactly.
              and the problem is floyd showed his colors, he has shown a yellow streak in the cowardly way he has used numerous re****uluss excuses to dodge Cotto and Margarito.

              boxing purists don't respect floyds self preservation duck and dodge tactics, not after we have seen the likes of fearless warriors like Holyfield Tyson Lewis Hopkins Tito Cotto Quartey Margarito Paq Calzaghe Marquez Tsyzu and Oscar too.

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              • Vladimir303
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                #27
                Who said that Floyd would make a 50million off of this upcoming fight?

                I think the author of this thread got a lil carried away.

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                • rj_ct
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  i agree on 99% of what you said...


                  the 1% i dont agree on is... he made 24 - 28 million for oscar and right around 20 million for ricky hatton... he made around 55 million in 2007.. those were the forbes numbers

                  number two is cotto wont bring 20 million to the table it would be more like 12 - 15 million....



                  building that wealth is about fighting people the casual boxing fan knows..... for every 10 casual boxing fans, there is 1 boxing enthusiast, like ourselves... thats where the money comes from... fighting a name like oscar de la hoya where 10 people know who he is... rather than fighting a cotto, where only the one person knows who he is...

                  oscar brings more money agreeed



                  FORBS.COM
                  "Boxer Floyd Mayweather enjoyed his best year ever. He collected a total of $50 million for his May and December fights against Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, respectively. "

                  http://www.forbes.com/media/2008/02/...xes=relstories
                  do you think the casual fans will buy this fight again? i don't. dlh v. may 1 was by no means a bad fight, but it didn't live up to the hype (as most fight fans expected it wouldn't). a lot of casual fans told me they were bored with it. i'm definitely not gonna be paying for it again, but i'll download it or stream it.

                  i stand by my statement that, if marketed correctly, mayweather v. cotto can do just as well, if not better (yeah, i said it!) than mayweather v. de la hoya 2. if the first fight was more of an action fight, it'd be different.

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                  • jawsmafia
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                    #29
                    i voted wrong and said no because i didn't read the question right, in asking if it is smart for floyd to fight oscar, the answer financially speaking is yes, of course a lot of people don't want to see this fight including me and there is that potential that the casual fan won't buy it, but DLH would be the biggest payday for floyd regardless of that and his "money" monniker pretty much sums up what floyd has in mind when choosing fights.

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                    • RAESAAD
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                      #30
                      I think it's smart. Although I could care less to see it, I'll still watch. Bottom line is it's smart for Floyd moneywise. I think if he wants to go down as an all time great he has to clean out he WW division right now.( but he won't even try) But he could make a ton of cash fighting DLH....especially if he ended up losing....that would set up a huge PPV and payday to conclude the trilogy.....but as far as being the best ever....He has to not think about the money as much as the opponent.

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