The taylor fights were considered gift decisions and you cant disagree that Hopkins was far from his best, yes he was still far from his best against Tarver and Wright but he still beat them, it just shows you a different between a good and a great fighter. A great fighter can even win when he is out of his prime, etc. You get what im sayin bro?
Prime RJJ is a trouble against anyone, and he would have beaten almost any middleweight ever, You name it.
How was Hopkins far from his best against Taylor, when ALL of his biggest wins came after the age of 36? I haven't seen the second yet, but in the first Bernard didn't do a single thing to try and win any of the first 9 rounds, then dominated the last 3, so to call it a gift is inaccurate.
Roy wasn't in his prime at 160, but Bernard wasn't yet either and they were both at the same stages in their career so it evens out. I merely pointed out Roy because you mentioned the Leonard loss. Had Hagler, who was past his best at that point, not gotten completely screwed in the negotiations for the fight (24 ft ring, 10 oz gloves, etc) he would have faired better.
What about Marvin Hagler? I've seen a guy with a Hagler Avatar tell me Hopkins is way overrated and all he has done is beaten smaller guys, he shouldn't be considered as an alltime middleweight great.
Duran = Lightweight and Hagler won a very close decision
Leanord = Welterweight..Oh well...he lost that fight
Hearns = Welterweight, the best win of Hagler's career
hopkins has only beat smaller opponents but he's still a good fighter.hagler actually fought good middlewieights bernard has not his best opponet was jones and he lost
hopkins has only beat smaller opponents but he's still a good fighter.hagler actually fought good middlewieights bernard has not his best opponet was jones and he lost
Would Antonio Tarver be one of those "smaller opponents"?
People will always hate great fighters. There is no way around it, unfortunately. Some people will nit pick certain fighters for whatever reasons and attempt to discredit them. Most of them, probably never fought a day themselves.
And for the record there isn't a single fighter that lived who wasn't criticized, in one way or another (Ali, Robinson, Hagler, et al).
Hopkins is one of the best middleweights of all time. No question about it. Not better than Hagler or others, but he is certainly one of the best ever and hall of famer. Just look at his accomplishments inside and outside of the ring. Sure you can nitpick Trinidad and ODH, but lets not forget they had to make weight, they agreed upon the weight, and we're talking 5-7 pounds or so (AND they had prior fights at the higher weight before hopkins). Mayweather beat a bigger man, it can be done. Same with Ray Leonard, he beat a number of fighters "naturally" bigger than him.
Hopkins KO'd trinidad. KO'd ODH. I don't give a **** who you are, to be the only man to KO two legends is impressive.
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