Who ya got? Winky Wright or Edison Miranda at 168?

[warp1432]

I think I already saw this fight. It's called Winky Wright vs Sam Soliman.

Seriously, that's what it would be, but Miranda stronger. And Soliman probably has more "boxing" skill then Miranda does so...

[Azteca]

You might want to watch a couple of his fights again, because I think you are wrong about this.

There is no way that a brawler can be lauded for having such great defense, and there is no way punchstats (even though you smite their very existence) can be so low for all of his opponents.

In a brawling style fight, the fighter who throws more punches usually wins, and Winky does not usually throw more punches. You could make the argument that power can overcome low punch output, but Winky being deemed a power puncher? Get out.

**** man...it's semantics.

He swarms..brawls. Whatever you want to call it.

He gets hit alot, which is why his head swells like ****ing popcorn after every fight.

And yeah, i'm right. You're wrong.

[Pantera2000]

I think I already saw this fight. It's called Winky Wright vs Sam Soliman.

Seriously, that's what it would be, but Miranda stronger. And Soliman probably has more "boxing" skill then Miranda does so...

You are off your rockers!
Soliman and Miranda are nothing alike!

[-Hyperion-]

**** man...it's semantics.

He swarms..brawls. Whatever you want to call it.

He gets hit alot, which is why his head swells like ****ing popcorn after every fight.

And yeah, i'm right. You're wrong.

swarming is putting pressure most of the time.....brawling is trading in close...completely different......

winky swarms you and forces you to fight back, picks your shots off with gloves and arms and then counters you with jabs and lefts.......even some hooks and uppers if he lets you unload punches in close......tahts not brawling....

[Fox McCloud]

You are off your rockers!
Soliman and Miranda are nothing alike!

Their technique is about equal.

But I think you are the guy who told me that Miranda has some good "boxing skills".

[Azteca]

swarming is putting pressure most of the time.....brawling is trading in close...completely different......

winky swarms you and forces you to fight back, picks your shots off with gloves and arms and then counters you with jabs and lefts.......even some hooks and uppers if he lets you unload punches in close......tahts not brawling....

It's swarming and serious infighting.

I call it brawling.

Semantics man.

[Pantera2000]

Their technique is about equal.

But I think you are the guy who told me that Miranda has some good "boxing skills".

Miranda has a great jab and uses it to set up his right hand. He has learned how to cut off the ring real nicely too. He also counters pretty nicely.

His defense has gotten better, but still not too good.

He is far from the Mayorga brawler that some make him out to be.
On the judges cards (other than the BS that happened in Germany) he has never been down. Even against Pavlik he was up going into round 6 (although I didnt have it that way).

So yea, the guy is very under rated in the skill department.

[Azteca]

Miranda has a great jab and uses it to set up his right hand. He has learned how to cut off the ring real nicely too. He counters pretty nicely too.

His defense has gotten better, but still not too good.

He is far from the Mayorga barwler that some make him out to be.
On the judges cards (other than the BS that happened in Germany) he has never been down. Even against Pavlik he was up going into round 6 (although I didnt have it that way).

So yea, the guy is very under rated in the skill department.

I agree. He is far from Mayorga when it comes to skills.

Far better. But Mayorga seems to have alot more athleticism and speed.

he is underated techincally...but he is still ****. He is a clubber man.

[Pantera2000]

I agree. He is far from Mayorga when it comes to skills.

Far better. But Mayorga seems to have alot more athleticism and speed.

he is underated techincally...but he is still ****. He is a clubber man.

No doubt he is a clubber... and I wouldnt want him to change that. That is what makes him what he is.

[Azteca]

I think he's underated also.

But he is pretty one dimensional as it gets. And he came at a time when their are not many great MW boxers. Actually the division was pretty weak.

I cringe to think what Miranda would be in the 80's. Daim...