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  • kayjay
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    #11
    It's meaningless.

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #12
      Originally posted by HotSizzle
      Which floyd has been in all the previous divisions he's been in.
      I'm not sure he earned that spot at 140 by beating Gatti and not Tszyu or Cotto or later Hatton. You could argue that Judah and Baldomir earned him that spot at 147, but I'm not sure he's done enough since to keep that spot. Hatton's credentials at 147 were pretty weak.

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      • rebmogul
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        #13
        Originally posted by kayjay
        It's meaningless.
        EXACTLY....

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        • johnm is...
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          #14
          Originally posted by FloydFanatic
          you have to be the best in ur division by beating the best and winning the most titles and making the most money. and entertaining helps some peeps too. i cant decide whos #2 to 10 but thats for yall to figure out going by what i said.
          Pretty much in every post you say something about "making the most money" What the **** does that have to do with being P4P #1? Seriously?

          So THAT'S how they figure P4P rankings.

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          • MakeDamnSure
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            #15
            Joe Calzaghe and Pacquiao will take the top 2 spot..

            They deserve that spot of fighting all the best in their division while Floyd handpicks his opponent who only fights for the money and not for the challenge.
            Last edited by MakeDamnSure; 01-29-2008, 07:15 PM.

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            • Crazylegs77
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              #16
              Originally posted by rebmogul
              some sort of standard judging criteria. For a bunch of writers and pundits to jump in a room and pick or vote for who they personally think is the P4P best is idiotic at best. I mean the selection amounts to nothing more than a group of people say some one is the P4P just because they think so.

              Does anyone know what the criteria is for judging and picking the P4P best? From what I understand, the process is completely arbitrary and vague with no real basis in a system or process for validation. The mere participation in this is sort of exercise is more of a reflection on the "dimness" of the voters and followers than a validation of the fighters.

              I am a Floyd fan but do not have any idea how someone can be voted P4P best when they haven't proven they can beat everyone in their own division.

              Until a fighter OWNS their own divison withoiut question, IMO, there is no way anyone can label them P4P. To do so is a complete choke and to pay attention to this makes you a nut hanger with no ability to think for yourself. Another name for this is called "follower".
              Based on reading posts in the past, I dont think fans want any kind of real data or logic to back up the P4P rating system.

              I think part of the P4P system should include reviewing your average competition level so you can weed out those who built their records by fighting bums..

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              • FloydFanatic
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                #17
                Originally posted by johnm
                Pretty much in every post you say something about "making the most money" What the **** does that have to do with being P4P #1? Seriously?

                So THAT'S how they figure P4P rankings.
                Floyd is number 1 so u tell me. he beats everyone and makes the most money and is the most exciting. thats p4p baby.

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                • postmortem
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by FloydFanatic
                  Floyd is number 1 so u tell me. he beats everyone and makes the most money and is the most exciting. thats p4p baby.
                  i like floyd too man but be real, making money has nothing to do with p4p because if it did tyson and oscar would be p4p 1 and 2 all time. Floyd is also far from the most exciting, watch him fight and you will see he is more concerned about defense than offense and that is not exciting it is just careful and smart fighting. I think p4p is just the general opinion on who would be the best fighter if all the fighters were the same size.

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                  • rebmogul
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by postmortem
                    i like floyd too man but be real, making money has nothing to do with p4p because if it did tyson and oscar would be p4p 1 and 2 all time. Floyd is also far from the most exciting, watch him fight and you will see he is more concerned about defense than offense and that is not exciting it is just careful and smart fighting. I think p4p is just the general opinion on who would be the best fighter if all the fighters were the same size.
                    i like floyd also but if he doesn't step up and fight a ww contender, cotto, pw or mosley this year than **** 'em, i'm done.

                    who gives a **** about seeing fm kick odh's ass again in another boring fight because oscar is too scared to fight?

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                    • JoartCC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by rebmogul
                      some sort of standard judging criteria. For a bunch of writers and pundits to jump in a room and pick or vote for who they personally think is the P4P best is idiotic at best. I mean the selection amounts to nothing more than a group of people say some one is the P4P just because they think so.

                      Does anyone know what the criteria is for judging and picking the P4P best? From what I understand, the process is completely arbitrary and vague with no real basis in a system or process for validation. The mere participation in this is sort of exercise is more of a reflection on the "dimness" of the voters and followers than a validation of the fighters.

                      I am a Floyd fan but do not have any idea how someone can be voted P4P best when they haven't proven they can beat everyone in their own division.

                      Until a fighter OWNS their own divison withoiut question, IMO, there is no way anyone can label them P4P. To do so is a complete choke and to pay attention to this makes you a nut hanger with no ability to think for yourself. Another name for this is called "follower".
                      Pound for pound is a criteria of opinion but BASED ON COMMON SENSE.

                      Complete idiots will argue that it's based on opinion.

                      COrrect.

                      But also based of common sense.

                      P4p means being the best.

                      If you got a pint of common sense in your brain then you will realize being the best means fighting the best.

                      It's all common sense.

                      And I still can't figure out how a ***** Fake Floyd can trick Americans he's a p4p guy much less ATG.

                      That dudes a ***** and he's got the Americans duped.

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