To have a P4P best you have to have....

[rebmogul]

some sort of standard judging criteria. For a bunch of writers and pundits to jump in a room and pick or vote for who they personally think is the P4P best is idiotic at best. I mean the selection amounts to nothing more than a group of people say some one is the P4P just because they think so.

Does anyone know what the criteria is for judging and picking the P4P best? From what I understand, the process is completely arbitrary and vague with no real basis in a system or process for validation. The mere participation in this is sort of exercise is more of a reflection on the "dimness" of the voters and followers than a validation of the fighters.

I am a Floyd fan but do not have any idea how someone can be voted P4P best when they haven't proven they can beat everyone in their own division.

Until a fighter OWNS their own divison withoiut question, IMO, there is no way anyone can label them P4P. To do so is a complete choke and to pay attention to this makes you a nut hanger with no ability to think for yourself. Another name for this is called "follower".

[HappyBoxingFan]

some sort of standard judging criteria. For a bunch of writers and pundits to jump in a room and pick or vote for who they personally think is the P4P best is idiotic at best. I mean the selection amounts to nothing more than a group of people say some one is the P4P just because they think so.

Does anyone know what the criteria is for judging and picking the P4P best? From what I understand, the process is completely arbitrary and vague with no real basis in a system or process for validation. The mere participation in this is sort of exercise is more of a reflection on the "dimness" of the voters and followers than a validation of the fighters.

I am a Floyd fan but do not have any idea how someone can be voted P4P best when they haven't proven they can beat everyone in their own division.

Until a fighter OWNS their own divison withoiut question, IMO, there is no way anyone can label them P4P. To do so is a complete choke and to pay attention to this makes you a nut hanger with no ability to think for yourself. Another name for this is called "follower".

Who cares... it's arbitrary anyway. It's supposed to give you an idea... it's not the be all end all. I agree with everything you said, but the tone. On the list of things wrong with boxing... the media's p4p rankings rank like 2089th.

[SkillspayBills]

P4P is personal opinion pretty much, it's not an official criteria so why fret?

[rebmogul]

P4P is personal opinion pretty much, it's not an official criteria so why fret?

It's not a fret, it's merely explaining what it really is. it seems so many get caught up in P4P and top 10, top 20 or whatever by whoever (ring, wbc, wba, etc) when the only thing that really matters is you either hold a belt or you don't.

and if a fighter doesn't hold a belt, the only things we know about them for sure for sure is;

1) you haven't been around long enough to get one
2) you aren't good enough to get one
3) you weren't good enough to keep one

anything more than that is unsubstantiated opinion.

[HotSizzle]

some sort of standard judging criteria. For a bunch of writers and pundits to jump in a room and pick or vote for who they personally think is the P4P best is idiotic at best. I mean the selection amounts to nothing more than a group of people say some one is the P4P just because they think so.

Does anyone know what the criteria is for judging and picking the P4P best? From what I understand, the process is completely arbitrary and vague with no real basis in a system or process for validation. The mere participation in this is sort of exercise is more of a reflection on the "dimness" of the voters and followers than a validation of the fighters.

I am a Floyd fan but do not have any idea how someone can be voted P4P best when they haven't proven they can beat everyone in their own division.

Until a fighter OWNS their own divison withoiut question, IMO, there is no way anyone can label them P4P. To do so is a complete choke and to pay attention to this makes you a nut hanger with no ability to think for yourself. Another name for this is called "follower".

Umm p4p isn't based on who's the best in the division.

[Jim Jeffries]

Umm p4p isn't based on who's the best in the division.

Well you certainly couldn't be #1 p4p without being the best in your division.

[HotSizzle]

Well you certainly couldn't be #1 p4p without being the best in your division.

Which floyd has been in all the previous divisions he's been in.

[MakeDamnSure]

1. Pacquiao
if he knocks Marquez out cold

2. Calzaghe
- Beat Hopkins by a wide UD

3. Mayweather
- Will receive a lot of criticisms by the media and fans of doing a rematch with Oscar.. He will only fight once next year and will be a rematch with again Oscar and only fights for huge pay checks Hatton and Oscar instead of fighting Cotto,Mosley,Margarito,Williams or Cintron with all the 147 out there.


It's just my own opinion but I will not be even surprised if Joe and Pac will get the top 2 spots.

[FloydFanatic]

you have to be the best in ur division by beating the best and winning the most titles and making the most money. and entertaining helps some peeps too. i cant decide whos #2 to 10 but thats for yall to figure out going by what i said.

[jawsmafia]

1. Pacquiao
if he knocks Marquez out cold

2. Calzaghe
- Beat Hopkins by a wide UD

3. Mayweather
- Will receive a lot of criticisms by the media and fans of doing a rematch with Oscar.. He will only fight once next year and will be a rematch with again Oscar and only fights for huge pay checks Hatton and Oscar instead of fighting Cotto,Mosley,Margarito,Williams or Cintron with all the 147 out there.


It's just my own opinion but I will not be even surprised if Joe and Pac will get the top 2 spots.

i don't know do you really think that they will take floyd off the number 1 spot