U see what being an entertaining fighter gets you?

[deevel79]

Being an entertaining fighter doesnt mean anything. Look at Juan Diaz. He has a very small fan base.

On youtube, I have a ton of full Juan Diaz fights. the highest video has only got about 2300 hits, thats the only one above 2000 hits and the rest of the videos are lucky to get over 200.

even Eddie Chambers fighting Dominick Guinn gets 5000 hits. I really dont understand it.

Mayorga makes cash partly due to his exciting style, but mostly its because of his big mouth.
and the marketable part of his exciting style is not how exciting he is himself...it actually is that he puts famous fighters in exciting fights, if you get my drift.
Mayorga is awesome though.

I dont know many boxing fans who find Juan Diaz boring. Where do u get that from? He comes to fight! and brings it to his opponents.

[K-Nan]

Young Winky beats up a journeyman. You would think he was some kind of a KO artist from that fight.

Reminds me of a video I saw of B-Hop's 5th pro fight.

Anything pre-Ramirez that you watch of the Macho-man is similair, too. Always cool to see that evolution of styles..

[Fox McCloud]

But seriously for what?, i mean he beat a much smaller Shane Mosely and that second fight was very close, a dominating win over a comebacking Trinidad, a draw against Taylor and a loss to Hopkins and Vargas, i dont picture Winky going down in history, not saying hes not one of the best fighters of this generation but i think hes one of those guys who gets forgotten.

Unified champion at 154... he didn't let Trinidad win a round. All of his losses are close too, and can be argued the other way. Definately not going to be a fighter you remember at a drop of a hat, but a true historian will remember him.

I like guys who can sacrifice excitement for skill.. But Winky just seems too complacent at many times in the ring. He complains about all of his shady decisions but the truth is- He begins to fight with an overconfidence at times. He's so in love with his style that he just assumes that he has a fight in the bag. You can be technical and still win with some oomph... Winky doesn't do that. His thing is doing just enough.

Winky really should go for a 116-112 win once in a while instead of relying on a 115-113 win. I can agree with that. He would be ranked a HELL of a lot higher if he would have done that in his four losses.

[Steak]

But seriously for what?, i mean he beat a much smaller Shane Mosely and that second fight was very close, a dominating win over a comebacking Trinidad, a draw against Taylor and a loss to Hopkins and Vargas, i dont picture Winky going down in history, not saying hes not one of the best fighters of this generation but i think hes one of those guys who gets forgotten.

Vargas, Taylor and Hopkins are ALL fights you could say Winky won.

Honestly, I wish Winky would just fight a semi-bad fighter real quick and actually knock him out for once. Just that little knockout over a lousy fighter would make him much more marketable.
but fighters just dont understand this kind of stuff I guess...

[Fox McCloud]

Young Winky beats up a journeyman. You would think he was some kind of a KO artist from that fight.

Glad you like the video.

[Fox McCloud]

Vargas, Taylor and Hopkins are ALL fights you could say Winky won.

Honestly, I wish Winky would just fight a semi-bad fighter real quick and actually knock him out for once. Just that little knockout over a lousy fighter would make him much more marketable.
but fighters just dont understand this kind of stuff I guess...

I haven't seen the Simon fight, but I have also heard that it can be credibly argued that Winky won that one too.

[Steak]

I dont know many boxing fans who find Juan Diaz boring. Where do u get that from? He comes to fight! and brings it to his opponents.

nobody thinks Juan Diaz is boring, how could they? but yet he doesnt have a big fan base for some reason. doesnt make sense, does it? get what I was sayin in my last post?

[Scott9945]

I haven't seen the Simon fight, but I have also heard that it can be credibly argued that Winky won that one too.

I've seen the Simon fight and have it on tape somewhere. It could easily have been a draw. As a matter of fact I think they announced it as a draw then changed the decision, like in Barrera-Juarez I.

[TheGreatA]

Bernard the KO artist.


Hopkins putting on the pressure.


Bernard's record breaking first round KO.


Hopkins today.

[HappyBoxingFan]

Word. Too many ballerinas in this sport not enought fighters. We have to re-examine the way judges use the criteria to score a fight.