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  • #81
    Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr View Post
    I can dig it . Thats been a lot of fighters gameplan but its easier said than done.
    I don't think many of the pressure fighters Floyd has faced have used their jab to get inside.

    Of the ones who had ANY success
    Jesus Chavez did not, he just rushed in.
    Jose Luis Castillo did, and had tremendous success, even in the second fight.
    Henry Bruseles di... oh wait, fighters with success only.
    Ricky Hatton did not.

    The one guy who did had by far the best success against Floyd.

    Floyd did come back with a better showing the second time, and he may have figured it out, but it certainly wouldn't be a bad thing to see how he handles it from Cotto.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr View Post
      JESUS

      You must just started watching boxing. For you to say Floyd has never faced anyone like Cotto makes you look like a noob to boxing. Castillo and Cotto have similar styles. So when you say no one has a style like Cotto makes you look like you dont know what the **** you're talking about.

      You keep saying he fights the same. How is that when he figures out his opponents. So I guese he fought Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Oscar, and Hatton the same using your logic right? ( honestly, he could have done more in the Baldomir and Oscar fight. I cant knock him though because they were the bigger men.He still showcased his skills.)

      So are you saying that Cotto will outsmart and out think Mayweather in a fight? I highly doubt that. Seriously, Cotto can adapt to a style and so can Floyd. You forget to mention that.

      Floyd is no Mosley. Mosley was winning some exchanges and he was backing Cotto up (sometimes) Floyd will have the same success but he wont take as much punishment like Mosley did.

      I'm willing to bet you also once the fight is made
      You mentioned Castillo... he ****ed Floyd up in their first fight. I wish Floyd had your confidence. We would not be wondering what if he fought Cotto. **** would have been in the books already. But.... as I said, FLoyd is a ***** and Hear Cotto has asked Dog the Bounty Hunter to find his ass and bring him to the ring.

      You say Mosley had Cotto backin up? Yeah and Mosley was a bit sloooow to realize that as Cotto was backin up, he was clocking Mosley in the face and STILL winning. Oh ****!

      Floyd "on the run" Mayweather.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by CottoBreaksMen View Post
        You mentioned Castillo... he ****ed Floyd up in their first fight. I wish Floyd had your confidence. We would not be wondering what if he fought Cotto. **** would have been in the books already. But.... as I said, FLoyd is a ***** and Hear Cotto has asked Dog the Bounty Hunter to find his ass and bring him to the ring.

        You say Mosley had Cotto backin up? Yeah and Mosley was a bit sloooow to realize that as Cotto was backin up, he was clocking Mosley in the face and STILL winning. Oh ****!

        Floyd "on the run" Mayweather.
        So did Floyd have a better showing against Castillo the second time? That's what I thought.

        Shut the **** up fanboy.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr View Post
          I understand that Jabs wins fights but lets not forget Floyd can adapt to that type of style.( a constant jab) If I'm not mistakened Castillo had a decent Jab and got in pretty damn good on Mayweather but Floyd adapted and won the fight. He also packed a damn good punch (not trying to compare Castillo and Cotto's punching power.)

          Let me ask you this then, What makes Cotto's jab so superior to any other jab that is in boxing. I know he is a lot stronger at 147 and I'm just trying to get different points of view of this fight. Please dont take as if I'm praising Mayweather but I just dont see how Cotto can win by just jabbing. Hey, I might be wrong but who knows. I just want to see this damn fight. I know many will agree that Cotto-Mayweather needs to happen.
          Cotto is becoming the total package. His defense was suspect early, now he can bob and weave with the best of them and avoid punches but still being able to take hard shots. Again, his jab will be one of the determining factors in the fight. If you watch his fights against Zab & Mosley you can see the power he packs with those jabs. They almost look like stiff right hands the way Mosley & Zab's heads went back (watch both fights to see).

          Mayweather's game is to lure you in to fighting his fight. But Cotto is mad patient and wont fall victim to that. I've always said Floyd isn't the fastest boxer today, but probably the fastest "accurate" puncher. Cotto can handle the speed as shown against 2 very fast fighters and he won't have a problem as far as thats concerned.

          ...And obviously you have to mention power when dealing with Cotto. Grant it it'll be hard to land flush shots to Floyd's chin, but what a lot of people don't realize is punches to the arms, body, chest, etc are equally as effective as a chin check if not worse. I really don't think Floyd will be able to absorb a Cotto onslaught, and I don't mean a flurry of punches in 1 round, but multiple punches throughout the fight that'll break Money May down.

          In the end, the fight can go either way depending on who shows up. But the pressure is on Floyd. This will be the 1st WW Floyd's fought who is in his prime, younger, stronger, and hungrier. It has the makings of a legendary fight

          Cotto can KO Floyd

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          • #85
            Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
            I don't think many of the pressure fighters Floyd has faced have used their jab to get inside.

            Of the ones who had ANY success
            Jesus Chavez did not, he just rushed in.
            Jose Luis Castillo did, and had tremendous success, even in the second fight.
            Henry Bruseles di... oh wait, fighters with success only.
            Ricky Hatton did not.

            The one guy who did had by far the best success against Floyd.

            Floyd did come back with a better showing the second time, and he may have figured it out, but it certainly wouldn't be a bad thing to see how he handles it from Cotto.
            The Castillo fight was the blue print on how to offset Floyd's gameplan. You're right about Castillo. He had plenty of success with the jab and working off of it to get the inside postion but lets not forget what happen. (he still won a close decsion)

            I cant wait until this fight is signed so all the questions can be answered.

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            • #86
              pray for a lucky punch or pay the judges....

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr View Post
                The Castillo fight was the blue print on how to offset Floyd's gameplan. You're right about Castillo. He had plenty of success with the jab and working off of it to get the inside postion but lets not forget what happen. (he still won a close decsion)

                I cant wait until this fight is signed so all the questions can be answered.
                It is true that Floyd won...

                I think the x-factor is Cotto's accuracy, because he is one of the most accurate fighters in the sport today.

                I'm just playing devil's advocate though, because I do think Floyd did figure it out in the Castillo rematch, but those are the ways that Cotto will beat Floyd if he has not figured it out.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by CottoBreaksMen View Post
                  You mentioned Castillo... he ****ed Floyd up in their first fight. I wish Floyd had your confidence. We would not be wondering what if he fought Cotto. **** would have been in the books already. But.... as I said, FLoyd is a ***** and Hear Cotto has asked Dog the Bounty Hunter to find his ass and bring him to the ring.

                  You say Mosley had Cotto backin up? Yeah and Mosley was a bit sloooow to realize that as Cotto was backin up, he was clocking Mosley in the face and STILL winning. Oh ****!

                  Floyd "on the run" Mayweather.
                  He did win that fight if I'm not mistaked. So whats your point? Yeah it was a hard fought victory for Mayweather. Why didnt you bring up the second fight? Again your grasping at straws. You do know Floyd rematched Castillo immediately to erase any doubt. So please stop nit-picking at **** and tell the whole story instead of part of it to make your point valid.

                  I sure did say that Mosley was backing Cotto up. You're bias as **** if you didnt think Mosley put up a good fight. And since you want to throw stick and stones homie, why didnt Cotto rematch Shane? Man, I just cant wait to take all your points.

                  Mayweather is running from Cotto . MAN! You're one funny cat!

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr View Post
                    He did win that fight if I'm not mistaked. So whats your point? Yeah it was a hard fought victory for Mayweather. Why didnt you bring up the second fight? Again your grasping at straws. You do know Floyd rematched Castillo immediately to erase any doubt. So please stop nit-picking at **** and tell the whole story instead of part of it to make your point valid.

                    I sure did say that Mosley was backing Cotto up. You're bias as **** if you didnt think Mosley put up a good fight. And since you want to throw stick and stones homie, why didnt Cotto rematch Shane? Man, I just cant wait to take all your points.

                    Mayweather is running from Cotto . MAN! You're one funny cat!
                    I don't think Floyd is necessarily "running" from Cotto. He knows there's a lot of money involved once that fight is set.

                    As far as a rematch with Cotto vs Mayweather, it's almost like asking to see Oscar vs Floyd 2...sorta pointless. Mosley gave Cotto a hell of a fight, but I think a rematch would equal an exact replica of the original or possibly a late KO. There wasn't enough excitement to garner a rematch (as to why i'm so opposed to a De La Hoya vs Floyd rematch).

                    At the end of the day man, I'm a boxing fan and I just want to see this fight happen. I won't be one of those sore losers who makes excuses if Cotto takes an L. Thats part of boxing.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
                      I don't think Floyd is necessarily "running" from Cotto. He knows there's a lot of money involved once that fight is set.

                      As far as a rematch with Cotto vs Mayweather, it's almost like asking to see Oscar vs Floyd 2...sorta pointless. Mosley gave Cotto a hell of a fight, but I think a rematch would equal an exact replica of the original or possibly a late KO. There wasn't enough excitement to garner a rematch (as to why i'm so opposed to a De La Hoya vs Floyd rematch).

                      At the end of the day man, I'm a boxing fan and I just want to see this fight happen. I won't be one of those sore losers who makes excuses if Cotto takes an L. Thats part of boxing.
                      Good post man.

                      I'm a fan of Mayweather and I really hope he doesnt fight De La Hoya this time. You're right, its rather pointless. I dont give a **** if its for the money. He should be fighting Cotto next IMO.

                      I just want to see this fight because this is a very nice match up. The hungry lion vs a ****y lion. ( they both have some big ass hearts believe it or not)

                      But one thing I will tell you, you will see these two guys on top of their **** when they fight. Both of them will put on a good fight. Thats why I'm so excited about this fight. Clash of styles.

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