Is Max Kellerman a useless fanboy?

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  • Tyson Jones
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    #31
    However I cant argue with roy being a commentator, He's simpley the best. Roy, Larry and Jim will always be the All Star Line up.

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    • Migs
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      #32
      Max Kellerman deserves his spot on HBO. If anyone is over-excited and biased it's Jim Lampley. Kellerman at least has conviction in his statements. Someone will disagree with Lampley and he seems to almost go back on what he said or question himself. In regards to the Jones-Oscar issue, good. At least it's doing something to pull him away from Mayweather. I'm not gonna keep going on, I fully admit I'm a Kellerman nuthugger with good reason and I don't care.

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      • kayjay
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        #33
        By 'fanboy' I didn't mean 'opinionated'. Hell no one was more opinionated than Foreman, but he knows his ****, can explain things from a fighter's perspective and most importantly he has character.

        I only meant that Max is like one of us. A fan, not a real player in the boxing business, not someone I would ever treat as an authority.

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        • Migs
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          #34
          Originally posted by kayjay
          By 'fanboy' I didn't mean 'opinionated'. Hell no one was more opinionated than Foreman, but he knows his ****, can explain things from a fighter's perspective and most importantly he has character.

          I only meant that Max is like one of us. A fan, not a real player in the boxing business, not someone I would ever treat as an authority.
          Define a "real" player in the business.

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          • Gareth Ivanovic
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            #35
            I don't mind Max and to me it seems he gets better and better with each show he does. I like the fact that he is really into boxing and always has been seen since his ESPN days. I prefer Larry though and sometimes Max seems to be trying to copy Larry with his long analogies and metaphors. I think a lot of us are used to Larry and don't like the fact that somebody else is taking his spot. I used to hate Larry for a while, but now truely appreciate him. It doesn't seem like a big fight unless he's commentating. Maybe as time passes Max will grow on people.

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              #36
              I like him better than Joe Tessitore.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Migs
                Define a "real" player in the business.
                An expert. Someone who understands the actual sport in a deeper sense than we regular fans do. Usually that's a trainer or a fighter at the advanced-professional or championship level.

                For example, if you follow a sport you can go to ESPN and read what glorified fanboys think about it, or you could go to a real site like fox and read a coach's perspective. The former are fanboys, the latter are experts.

                Max sometimes gets referred to on here as if his opinion carried more weight than any Joe Blow from down the street. It does not.

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                • Migs
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by kayjay
                  An expert. Someone who understands the actual sport in a deeper sense than we regular fans do. Usually that's a trainer or a fighter at the advanced-professional or championship level.

                  For example, if you follow a sport you can go to ESPN and read what glorified fanboys think about it, or you could go to a real site like fox and read a coach's perspective. The former are fanboys, the latter are experts.

                  Max sometimes gets referred to on here as if his opinion carried more weight than any Joe Blow from down the street. It does not.
                  So how do Larry Merchant or Jim Lampley fall into that category?

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                  • Pugilistic™
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                    #39
                    he really annoys me

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                    • kayjay
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Migs
                      So how do Larry Merchant or Jim Lampley fall into that category?
                      Lampley is lead commentator, you need a media guy in that role. He does a great job and defers to the boxing experts next to him. He plays the role.

                      I can't explain Merchant, but at least he limits himself to one-liners and faux-profonde remarks.

                      Max is overzealous, he wants to be the guy talking about the fight. When he's next to Manny he talks to much, too loudly, and drowns the real expert out. He simply overplays his role. At one point Max and Lamps were going back and forth, Manny tried to get in, then chuckled as he was drowned out. "These guys have no clue what they're looking at," was how I heard the chuckle

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