Why do people downplay the benefits of steroid use?

[Thread Stealer]

It's not that great for boxing because boxing is a SCIENCE. Steroids dont help you see the openings. Steroids dont help you get a better jab. They may help with physical attributes like muscle, chin, toughness (basically your ability to sustain a power punch) but they are not all that and a bag of chips, IMO.

Besides, the only guys that have really taken steroids are the heavy's. And the heavy's are a totally different ball game and require a totally different skillset to win fights.

orlando salido
richard hall
shane mosley
fernando vargas
joey gilbert
mariano carrera
roy jones

all of these guys have failed steroid tests with the exception of mosley, who later said he took steroids (unknowingly) in 2003.

[JoeyBB]

orlando salido
richard hall
shane mosley
fernando vargas
joey gilbert
mariano carrera
roy jones

all of these guys have failed steroid tests with the exception of mosley, who later said he took steroids (unknowingly) in 2003.

Only three of those guys were top fighters at the time.

steroids didnt help from Mosley getting his ass beat by Vernon forrest....twice.

Or never helped Vargas against DLH.

Or helped Roy against Tarver.

Wasn't 2003 the time when Mosley fought Forrest?

And Vargas was caught for steroids right around the time he fought DLH.

That really right there...proves what roids do to you.

[Thread Stealer]

Only three of those guys were top fighters at the time.

that has nothing to do with your laughable claim that only heavyweights juice.

steroids didnt help from Mosley getting his ass beat by Vernon forrest....twice.

Or never helped Vargas against DLH.

Or helped Roy against Tarver.

Wasn't 2003 the time when Mosley fought Forrest?

And Vargas was caught for steroids right around the time he fought DLH.

That really right there...proves what roids do to you.

nobody says steroids is an automatic victory.

it's an unfair advantage, not an assurance of victory.

[JoeyBB]

that has nothing to do with your laughable claim that only heavyweights juice.



nobody says steroids is an automatic victory.

it's an unfair advantage, not an assurance of victory.

Ok, so pick 6 exceptions to the rule. Congratu-****ing-lations.

Alot of the heavies juiced.

Lewis
Tyson
Morrison
Holyfield

...and the list goes on and on.

[Thread Stealer]

Ok, so pick 6 exceptions to the rule. Congratu-****ing-lations.

Alot of the heavies juiced.

Lewis
Tyson
Morrison
Holyfield

...and the list goes on and on.

ahh, getting pissy that i disproved your humorous claim that "the only guys that have really taken steroids are the heavyweights"??

tyson and lewis are simply speculation.

just because heavyweights are more prone to doing it (or getting caught), it doesn't mean ****.

it's an unfair advantage and shouldn't be written off because it doesn't in itself improve skills.

[JoeyBB]

I should name Joe blow like you did to further support my claims.

That's pretty much what you were doing.

At any rate, steroids haven't been proven to improve a boxer.

[PBDS]

He was out cold long before he hit the floor. Morrison does have a glass jaw, just look at his fights against Purrity, Ruddock, Bentt, Lewis, well just about any of his fights.

Morrison ran out of gas but that's not because of steroid use (steroids actually help your stamina) but because he has too much muscle. I guess it could be contributed to steroid use but it's not entirely because of that.

Tommy was wiping the floor with Mercer and he threw lots of punches but Mercer took them all.
I'm sure just about anyone would get gassed after throwing so many punches.

....There were some quotes from Mercer saying that Morrison hit him harder than he was ever hit and he was literaly nearly ****ting his pants. He said that every time Morrison hit him with a big body shot he inadvertantly passed gas.

[Thread Stealer]

I should name Joe blow like you did to further support my claims.

That's pretty much what you were doing.

At any rate, steroids haven't been proven to improve a boxer.

that doesn't mean that cheating should be written off, just because it hasn't been "proven".

those guys who i named getting caught, and others whom we suspect of it, surely they must have thought it would help them if they put their reputations at risk by doing it.

fighters wouldn't keep doing it if it didn't give them an edge, whether physical or mental.

either way, cheating is cheating.

[Crazylegs77]

Because if we were all massive body builders and all had roid rage at the same time the world would be deystoyed in 1 GIANT wrestling match.

[Larry the boss]

people think PED'S are just for muscles for some reason