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  • #51
    Originally posted by Darkstar View Post
    Wow. According to your logic Mayorga shouldnt have won a fight in his life. You could cut down and sell any fighter short like that. If Baldomir yes Carlos Baldomir beat Judah, thier is no doubt in my mind what Mayorga would do to him. Judah couldnt even KO Edwin Vazquez or Ryan Davis on ESPN friday night fights.lol
    No, Boldimir beat an unprepared Judah who did not train properly or was focused. Also, Boldimir is a better all around fighter than Mayorga is. Boldimir has better skill, speed, and defence than Mayorga does. I would also favor Boldimir over Mayorga as well. Mayorga has amature skills and honestly, i am suprised that he was able to get as far as he did.. Him match well again any fighter that has the boxing skill and ability of Judah is something that i dont see happening.


    As for the bolded WTF is that?
    Margarito has been in with bigger and more acurate punchers than Mayorga?
    Who has he been in with bigger and better than Vernon Forrest, Oscar, Trinidad and Vargas.lol
    Daniel Santos?
    No, i said that Margarito has fought more accurate and harder punchers than MAYORGA, not the people that beat Mayorga..lol. Oscar and Trinidad beat Mayorga because he is not on that level and i see the same result with Judah. Judah would find Mayorga easily with that straight left hand and the counter left uppercut is what i think would knock Mayorga out. Unless Mayorga land something lucky, it will be a Zab Judah clinic.





    Cintron has done nothing but beat nobodys. Margarito and Cintron put together havent faced or accomplished half of what Mayorga has.[/
    LOL, so what has the ''great'' Mayorga accomplished that Margarito has not? Besides, Cintron and Margarito beating nobodies does not mean that they do not have the tools to beat Mayorga. Both fighters are way better tenically sound fighters than Mayorga.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by C-Drone View Post
      So, you'd pay to watch Spinks-Mosley.. before you'd pay to watch Mayorga-Mosley? Is that what you're saying?

      Nope i would rather watch Mosley fight Mayorga, i was just saying that Spinks/Mosley would not be as bad as people make it seem.

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      • #53
        I can, in no way, imagine this fight would be competitive.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
          No, Boldimir beat an unprepared Judah who did not train properly or was focused. Also, Boldimir is a better all around fighter than Mayorga is. Boldimir has better skill, speed, and defence than Mayorga does. I would also favor Boldimir over Mayorga as well. Mayorga has amature skills and honestly, i am suprised that he was able to get as far as he did.. Him match well again any fighter that has the boxing skill and ability of Judah is something that i dont see happening.

          Mayorga has become underrated in his career simply because people assume all fighters have to be 'textbook' to be successful and legit.
          Baldomir beat Judah fair and square. I seriously laugh everytime Judahs fans say hes coming back "with his head on straight and focused."
          But did you really just say Carlos Baldomir is better than Mayorga. Have you seen any Mayorga fights other than Oscar and Tito?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
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            LOL, so what has the ''great'' Mayorga accomplished that Margarito has not? Besides, Cintron and Margarito beating nobodies does not mean that they do not have the tools to beat Mayorga. Both fighters are way better tenically sound fighters than Mayorga.
            What has Mayorga accomplished? You know he was the undisputed Welterweight Champion dont? Something Margarito has never done. Or was that before you started watching boxing.
            Well how about like this.
            WBA Champion Andrew Lewis- Wins by straight Knockout.
            WBC Champion Vernon Forrest(in his prime, right after the 2 Mosley beatings.)
            Wins by Straight Knockout. Gives him the rematch and wins yeat again.
            IBF Cory Spinks- Spinks runs for 12 straight rounds, and hits the canvas 5 times. Goes to the card gets straight robbed.(most on BS voted Mayorga won.)
            Not even to mention moving up 2 weight classes to fight Trinidad. The oscar fight and against the odds vs Vargas.
            Seriously, they havent even done half of what Mayorga has.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Darkstar View Post
              Mayorga has become underrated in his career simply because people assume all fighters have to be 'textbook' to be successful and legit.
              Baldomir beat Judah fair and square. I seriously laugh everytime Judahs fans say hes coming back "with his head on straight and focused."
              But did you really just say Carlos Baldomir is better than Mayorga. Have you seen any Mayorga fights other than Oscar and Tito?
              I have seen every Mayorga fight since he has beaten Forrest and again, hes not and will ever be on the elite level. Also, im not even a huge Judah fan and i know that he was not at his best when he fought Boldimir. There were points that Zab was just staring at Boldimir. Did the Zab that fought Spinks, Witter, Rivera or Corley just stare at them? No he didn't. They are all better fighters than Boldimir.

              Its laughable how you overrate Mayorga for some odd reason. I understand that you are a fan but you to face the facts. He lacks tecnicall skill and is too easy to slip and counter. He is wide open, swings wild, has terrible defense, and has no real tecnique. Even Emanual Stewart said that Mayorga fights like an amatuer.

              Mayorga is an ok fighter and i respect what he done in the sport, but in no way shape or form would you ever convince me that he beats Judah, Margarito, or even Cintron because it simply wouldnt happen.

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              • #57
                Why do you keep talking about his style. We all know about Mayorgas style. We know hes not Mayweather. A win is a win, a champion is a champion. You dont have to be 'textbook' to be successful and legit.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Darkstar View Post
                  What has Mayorga accomplished? You know he was the undisputed Welterweight Champion dont? Something Margarito has never done. Or was that before you started watching boxing.
                  Well how about like this.
                  WBA Champion Andrew Lewis- Wins by straight Knockout.
                  WBC Champion Vernon Forrest(in his prime, right after the 2 Mosley beatings.)
                  Wins by Straight Knockout. Gives him the rematch and wins yeat again.
                  IBF Cory Spinks- Spinks runs for 12 straight rounds, and hits the canvas 5 times. Goes to the card gets straight robbed.(most on BS voted Mayorga won.)
                  Not even to mention moving up 2 weight classes to fight Trinidad. The oscar fight and against the odds vs Vargas.
                  Seriously, they havent even done half of what Mayorga has.
                  The Forrest wins were good wins but Mayorga has not beaten an elite fighter since then, which makes him a one hit wonder. Six Heads Lewis had a weak chin and was never a top fighter. Lewis was also a paper champion who was another fighter that lack technical skills.

                  Also, Spinks gave Mayorga a boxing lesson. That was one of the most beautiful displays of boxing brilliance that i have ever seen. Spinks sliped and countered everything that Mayorga thew at him. Also, i have yet to see a person who thought that Mayorga actually won that fight, unless they are a delusional fan who is biased and wont except the truth.

                  Also, how does Mayorga moving up to middleweight and getting beat him make him any better? Trinidad beat the heart out of him and made him complain to the referee...lol. Oscar also beat the snot out him....lol.

                  He was actually suppose to knock Vargas out, he went the distance and fought to a hard majority decision against a weak chin former champion that was well past his prime and had been knocked out in his last fight. Vargas actually stunned Mayorga a couple of times.

                  Not to take anything form Mayorga though, he is a decent fighter but again, he lacks skill and will not match well against any elite fighter.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post

                    Mayorga is an ok fighter and i respect what he done in the sport, but in no way shape or form would you ever convince me that he beats Judah, Margarito, or even Cintron because it simply wouldnt happen.
                    I say he can and would. Because he has beaten MUCH MUCH better fighters than all three of them.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Darkstar View Post
                      I say he can and would. Because he has beaten MUCH MUCH better fighters than all three of them.
                      A left-rotater-cuff-less Vernon Forrest? Is that who you are referring to?

                      Or maybe that fatass shot Vargas?

                      I think Mayorga got pretty lucky to catch Forrest during his injury, and even more lucky that Vernon is a dumbass, and refused to get surgery for that shoulder until after he lost.

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