Calzaghe on Hatton: "I Won't Make His Mistake"

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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #21
    12 million each not too bad for a non PPV fight, not bad at all.

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    • Allucard
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      #22
      If Calzaghe means by that not fighting people who aren't as old as 43, then yeah, he won't do that mistake. If he means Hatton could have won, he's crazy. Hatton wasn't good enough that was it. If it was a mistake wouldnt it have been shown in maybe, just maybe in one of his other 43 fights, which he won?

      I hate calzaghe more and more these days. I once respected the guy but can't anymore. He's fighting old guys like Hopkins. Oh wait, not old, grandpa (43!!!), and he's plugging his fight? I don't care how good you think you are, but if you're 43 and your name is not George Foreman, you are too old to be fighting. Period.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Allucard
        If Calzaghe means by that not fighting people who aren't as old as 43, then yeah, he won't do that mistake. If he means Hatton could have won, he's crazy. Hatton wasn't good enough that was it. If it was a mistake wouldnt it have been shown in maybe, just maybe in one of his other 43 fights, which he won?

        I hate calzaghe more and more these days. I once respected the guy but can't anymore. He's fighting old guys like Hopkins. Oh wait, not old, grandpa (43!!!), and he's plugging his fight? I don't care how good you think you are, but if you're 43 and your name is not George Foreman, you are too old to be fighting. Period.
        Well to be fair ALL of Hopkins' big wins have come AFTER he turned 36. Trinidad, DLH, Tarver and Wright. The last two coming after he turned 41. Hopkins is the Ring champ at LHW and the #1 ranked fighter at that weight. But it's great how people are putting Calzaghe in a lose/lose situation. He gets his whole career discredited if he loses and even if he wins, "so what, he beat an old man."

        At least the 12 million he's making will make things better for him.

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        • BennyST
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          #24
          Originally posted by Allucard
          If Calzaghe means by that not fighting people who aren't as old as 43, then yeah, he won't do that mistake. If he means Hatton could have won, he's crazy. Hatton wasn't good enough that was it. If it was a mistake wouldnt it have been shown in maybe, just maybe in one of his other 43 fights, which he won?

          I hate calzaghe more and more these days. I once respected the guy but can't anymore. He's fighting old guys like Hopkins. Oh wait, not old, grandpa (43!!!), and he's plugging his fight? I don't care how good you think you are, but if you're 43 and your name is not George Foreman, you are too old to be fighting. Period.
          Mate, what the hell are you talking about?!?! Have you seen Hopkins fight lately? If anyone was meant to fight after 40 it was Hopkins, not ****ing Foreman!

          Jesus christ! Hopkins is very nearly as good as he's ever been. He might have lost some of his punch output but he's only gained in smarts and tactical fighting.

          Maybe you didn't see him take apart Tarver and then go on to shut Wright out. All this from a 43 year old. That old piece of **** shouldn't be fighting! Yeah right! Anyway, you watch what this old 'grampa' can still do come April 12th. I think you might be a bit surprised to see Calzaghe not able to walk all over him as so many expect him to do. He should still win...maybe...just, but it will be difficult. Hopkins still has a couple of good fights left in him.

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          • Degsy
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            #25
            Fact: Hatton Would Not Have Won It Unless He Had One Of Sven Ottke's Referees

            Fact: Notwithstanding That The Referee Was A Disgrace

            Fact: Hatton Did However Let Floyd Get To Him If He Hadn't He May Well Have Survived 12, But On The Wrong End Of A Ud By 6 Or So Rounds

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            • NeXt In Line
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              #26
              It's a sad day when someone can honestly say they think that fight was unfair because of the ref when its retty clear that there's no way in hell Ricky Hatton could ever beat Floyd Mayweather. And what was unfair, the ref not letting Ricky fight "his fight"? You mean hitting, then holding?

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                #27
                Originally posted by BHopEx42
                It's a sad day when someone can honestly say they think that fight was unfair because of the ref when its retty clear that there's no way in hell Ricky Hatton could ever beat Floyd Mayweather. And what was unfair, the ref not letting Ricky fight "his fight"? You mean hitting, then holding?
                In a way I agree but you also have to look at it from both sides. The referee was a disgrace in it. A referee should allow both fighters to fight however they both fight without either one getting more of an advantage.

                He didn't even let Hatton start to try and work inside but would break them the moment they started coming together. They both fouled a fair bit, with Hatton using his push/shove stuff and Mayweather giving him a bit of the ol' elbow here and there. Thats fine really but neither one should be put off their whole game or punished by the referee when they are both clearly at fault. In this fight Mayweather initiated as much clinching as did Hatton, if not more. You can't dispute that.

                That doesn't matter though. Both fighters should be given a fair shot to try and make their game work for them. If, in Hattons case, that means working on the inside then the referee should come in and slap the gloves that are holding down and away to break up any clinching and holding (check Duran/Leonard for a perfect example of great refereeing and allowing both guys to fight their own style of fight).

                A referee shouldn't get between two fighters and become part of the fight, full stop. That is bad refereeing. That is what Cortez was doing. He was changing one of the fighters way of fighting and a good referee will let both fighters fight their own way while keeping it fair.

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                • BennyST
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                  #28
                  Hatton was still never going to beat Floyd though, bad refereeing or not.

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                  • jcarr71
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                    #29
                    1) The reffing was pretty bad in Hatton/Mayweather. In theory he did the right thing in not letting hug'n'hit Ricky do his very illegal thing, but it didn't work for one simple reason. The referee was reacting to his anticipation of fouling. Whenever Hatton even got close to it the ref jumped in. Hatton didn't have to do anything wrong to get yelled at. He just had to look like he was about to. He probably was, but still that just isn't how it is supposed to go.

                    2) The ref had nothing to do with the outcome. He just made the fight a bit of a headache at first.

                    3) I don't think Hatton was really any different emotionally this fight. He leaps in poorly in all his fights. It wasn't him being upset or Floyd getting into his head. It was just a vastly superior fighter exploiting his opponent's weaknesses.

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                    • Tyson Jones
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                      #30
                      I Think calzaghe will win this fight quite easily to some belief. But I dont think hatton made a mistake. He simply couldnt beat the best in the world, no shame in that. I hope after Calzaghe wins, he stays and fights 1 or more fights in the US as well.

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