Max Kellerman made an interesting point last night............

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  • ßringer
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    #11
    It only makes sense for it to be Oscar's last fight. Right now with a Mayweather rematch looming, and a tuneup fight against a yet to be named opponet prior to that, that only leaves 1 match left since he wants 3 fights this year. It only makes sense to play that Tito card last because A.) Trinidad is not going anywhere, he'll be there anytime Oscar wants him. and B.) Everybody knows Oscar won the first fight, what better way to retire than to avenge your most controversial loss?

    The only thing that worries me is how far apart they are in terms of weight and condition. Oscar's an old fighter, but he's in far better condition than is Trinidad. Tito won't go below 160, and Oscar won't go above 154. I think Oscar will end up going to 160 just to get it a done deal.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jreckoning
      DLH-Trinidad would be exactly the same thing Jones-Trinidad was about.
      Money and nothing else. Meaningless.

      Yep. Probably would be a worse fight to watch as well.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        It only makes sense for it to be Oscar's last fight. Right now with a Mayweather rematch looming, and a tuneup fight against a yet to be named opponet prior to that, that only leaves 1 match left since he wants 3 fights this year. It only makes sense to play that Tito card last because A.) Trinidad is not going anywhere, he'll be there anytime Oscar wants him. and B.) Everybody knows Oscar won the first fight, what better way to retire than to avenge your most controversial loss?

        The only thing that worries me is how far apart they are in terms of weight and condition. Oscar's an old fighter, but he's in far better condition than is Trinidad. Tito won't go below 160, and Oscar won't go above 154. I think Oscar will end up going to 160 just to get it a done deal.

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        I can concur my friend. Personally I believe they can just meet in the middle. Seriously what is the problem with that? 157 could be a weight they meet at and it can be a final chapter to both their careers.

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          #14
          Originally posted by SkillspayBills
          I can concur my friend. Personally I believe they can just meet in the middle. Seriously what is the problem with that? 157 could be a weight they meet at and it can be a final chapter to both their careers.
          Yeah but I for some reason I doubt Trinidad is willing to do a catchweight deal. He's been hard to negotiate with in the past thanks to his father's meddling. And last night just proved that when Tito came in a little heavy and Roy let it slide, then Tito wouldn't allow Jones to wear his own gloves.

          I say Trinidad says 160 or no fight, and Oscar eventually caves like the "good guy" he portrays himself to be. Which would be another interesting angle, we all know how badly Oscar sucks at 160.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The_Bringer
            Yeah but I for some reason I doubt Trinidad is willing to do a catchweight deal. He's been hard to negotiate with in the past thanks to his father's meddling. And last night just proved that when Tito came in a little heavy and Roy let it slide, then Tito wouldn't allow Jones to wear his own gloves.

            I say Trinidad says 160 or no fight, and Oscar eventually caves like the "good guy" he portrays himself to be. Which would be another interesting angle, we all know how badly Oscar sucks at 160.
            Oscar likes to suck at any weight. He like to dress like a girl, likes to be called Goldie, and enjoys getting spanked by big bad men.

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              #16
              Originally posted by toincito
              Oscar likes to suck at any weight. He like to dress like a girl, likes to be called Goldie, and enjoys getting spanked by big bad men.
              Good ****. I'm starting to dislike the guy severly, despite being a big fan of his for years. I see what he's doing now by sinching up the top guys like Mayweather all for himself and it turns my stomach.

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                I think Max Kellerman always has good things to say. The guy knows his **** and I like the analogies he comes up with to tie into boxing. I know a lot of people can't stand him but it just doesn't make sense. I feel that Kellerman is very objective and does a good job at asking hard questions and pushing fighters to step up and prove themselves. Afterall, it's guys like him who get the ball rolling on great matchups to come.
                Last edited by Migs; 01-20-2008, 06:52 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Migs
                  I think Max Kellerman always has good things to say. The guy knows his **** and I like the analogies he comes up with to tie into boxing. I know a lot of people can't stand him but it just doesn't make sense. I feel that Kellerman is very objective and does a good job at asking hard questions and pushing fighters to step up and prove themselves. Afterall, it's guess like him who get the ball rolling on great matchups to come.
                  I think he should leave the analogies out of it, nobody does analogies better than Larry Merchant. Even Lampley said he sounded "Merchant-esque" last night. Other than that he's fine, but I'll always be partial to Larry, and it sucks to see him get passed by for every big fight.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    I think he should leave the analogies out of it, nobody does analogies better than Larry Merchant. Even Lampley said he sounded "Merchant-esque" last night. Other than that he's fine, but I'll always be partial to Larry, and it sucks to see him get passed by for every big fight.
                    I think both have great analogies but I like Kellerman's better myself and I prefer he keep doing them. I think they help create depth to the sport for a Joe casual viewer to gain interest. Personally, I don't think Merchant gets passed up by all the big fights either. To my recollection, I haven't seen Kellerman since Hatton-Castillo and can have seen Merchant on several fights thereafter. All I'm saying is for a young guy, the cognizance Max posseses about the sport and other historical events in conjunction with the ability to draw parallels between both is truly impressive. I'm honestly trying to more or less state my point/opinion rather than argue with you Bringer as I think you have great points and I tend to agree with most things you say, I guess just not this time.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Migs
                      I think both have great analogies but I like Kellerman's better myself and I prefer he keep doing them. I think they help create depth to the sport for a Joe casual viewer to gain interest. Personally, I don't think Merchant gets passed up by all the big fights either. To my recollection, I haven't seen Kellerman since Hatton-Castillo and can have seen Merchant on several fights thereafter. All I'm saying is for a young guy, the cognizance Max posseses about the sport and other historical events in conjunction with the ability to draw parallels between both is truly impressive. I'm honestly trying to more or less state my point/opinion rather than argue with you Bringer as I think you have great points and I tend to agree with most things you say, I guess just not this time.
                      Ah, it's nothing. I'm just very partial to Larry Merchant but Kellerman definitely knows his history, there's no dis*****g that.

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