Ricky Hatton vs Juan Diaz

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  • flat1985
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    #21
    Originally posted by RageX
    and I am not a Hatton fan, but I dont let my bias get in my ass. I hate Ricky's fighting style and all but at 140 i dont see how anyone can pick diaz over him, unless they are trying to wind someone up or its a bait thread
    LOL diaz has got a chance against Hatton dont kid yourself

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    • HappyBoxingFan
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      #22
      Originally posted by anth brown
      i think hatton would knock him out within 9 rounds

      diaz is to small for the hitman

      i'd rather see diaz vs khan

      and before you all jump on me - i mean after khans fought a good 4-5 more fights & has some sort of idea what its like to be in the ring with someone of diaz's caliber
      Hatton: 5-'6.5 65''
      Diaz: 5-'6 67''
      Oh ****... what's that a half an inch in height and a NEGATIVE reach advantage for the HITMAN... MUCH TOO BIG FOR DIAZ... With that half inch he'll tower over DIAZ... Get the **** outtta here.

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #23
        Originally posted by RageX
        you have some valid points but your making it sound like witter is some sort of a bum, i assume you pick diaz over witter as well? How many witter fights have you seen be honest with yourself not me before you make the judgement
        I haven't seen a single Witter fight, and don't intend to any time soon till he fights a real fighter. But the guy was 32 before he was able to win his first [b]vacant[/i] title. Sorry, I'm not impressed. We're talking about 5 pounds here and Diaz is a much more accomplished fighter. If you seriously pick Witter over him, I am speechless.

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        • HappyBoxingFan
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          #24
          Originally posted by RageX
          Are you okay? How the **** are you supposed to judge a guy who hasn't fought at light welterweight? how do you know if he is effective at that weight? he is strong at lightweight for the others, how do you know he will be the same? Yes everyone has a chance in boxing but No diaz does'nt have a good one at 140 pounds where Hatton is the king pin, I have yet to see Hatton lose at 140.
          I'll tell you how I'll judge him. I'll judge him by what he has done weighing 4-5 pounds less. We'll that be a perfect factor? no. But considering they are just about the same height. It'll do. What do you think will happen to Diaz when he puts on 4 pounds? Do you think he'll become a uncoordinated mess? 4 pounds? Really?

          I still think Hatton wins. Diaz has a very good shot.

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          • anth brown
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            #25
            Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan
            Hatton: 5-'6.5 65''
            Diaz: 5-'6 67''
            Oh ****... what's that a half an inch in height and a NEGATIVE reach advantage for the HITMAN... MUCH TOO BIG FOR DIAZ... With that half inch he'll tower over DIAZ... Get the **** outtta here.
            I meant overall size.... i dont see him suiting the light welter division as mjuch as he does the lightweight one - i cant see him carrying his strength up

            like everyone keeps saying, we dont know how he'd perform at the weight - its just my opinion

            and as for getting the **** out of here ?? has everyone got to be a boxing expert to have an opinion on this forum ??

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #26
              Originally posted by RageX
              Are you okay? How the **** are you supposed to judge a guy who hasn't fought at light welterweight? how do you know if he is effective at that weight? he is strong at lightweight for the others, how do you know he will be the same? Yes everyone has a chance in boxing but No diaz does'nt have a good one at 140 pounds where Hatton is the king pin, I have yet to see Hatton lose at 140.
              Who has Hatton beaten at 140 exactly besides an inactive 36 year old Tszyu where he was allowed to foul all night? A way past it Castillo, who was not even getting paid for the fight? Urango? Maussa? C'mon man, don't act like he's some kind of god at 140.

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              • anth brown
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                #27
                Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan
                Hatton: 5-'6.5 65''
                Diaz: 5-'6 67''
                Oh ****... what's that a half an inch in height and a NEGATIVE reach advantage for the HITMAN... MUCH TOO BIG FOR DIAZ... With that half inch he'll tower over DIAZ... Get the **** outtta here.
                Originally posted by gavinz1970
                I haven't seen a single Witter fight, and don't intend to any time soon till he fights a real fighter. But the guy was 32 before he was able to win his first [b]vacant[/i] title. Sorry, I'm not impressed. We're talking about 5 pounds here and Diaz is a much more accomplished fighter. If you seriously pick Witter over him, I am speechless.
                i genuinely think witters style would be tricky for hatton - i think if they fought it would be a long drawn out fight with hatton takin the decision... just

                witters power is underated & i think hatton would be cautious about fighting him

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                • HappyBoxingFan
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by anth brown
                  I meant overall size.... i dont see him suiting the light welter division as mjuch as he does the lightweight one - i cant see him carrying his strength up

                  like everyone keeps saying, we dont know how he'd perform at the weight - its just my opinion

                  and as for getting the **** out of here ?? has everyone got to be a boxing expert to have an opinion on this forum ??
                  No, my bad. I just hate, when people are like.. this guy has no chance. This guy dominates. It's ******. I really hate it when they base it on never having fought in a division seperated by 4 pounds. Factor? yes. Deciding factor alone? Never.

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                  • RageX
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gavinz1970
                    I haven't seen a single Witter fight, and don't intend to any time soon till he fights a real fighter. But the guy was 32 before he was able to win his first [b]vacant[/i] title. Sorry, I'm not impressed. We're talking about 5 pounds here and Diaz is a much more accomplished fighter. If you seriously pick Witter over him, I am speechless.
                    Yes but the accomplished fighter doesn't win every time, Margarito was more accomplished than Paul Williams. He has knocked out Vivian Harris, Dominated Corley and beaten N'dou, He is fighting D.Hopkins right now, has been calling out everyone at 140, Hatton wont fight him, Malignaggi went on record to say Witter is the best at 140 and paulie's team was offered the fight but rejected.

                    How can you judge a guy you haven't seen fight yet? He has fast hands and is a slick counterpuncher who does a lot of switch hitting from different odd angles, always confuse his opponents by switching his stance while counterpunching. I will admit I was impressed with him when I saw his fight with Harris, he can punch and punch with Accuracy.

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                    • HappyBoxingFan
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by gavinz1970
                      Who has Hatton beaten at 140 exactly besides an inactive 36 year old Tszyu where he was allowed to foul all night? A way past it Castillo, who was not even getting paid for the fight? Urango? Maussa? C'mon man, don't act like he's some kind of god at 140.
                      Yeah. That's a pretty good point. I like Hatton, but he's not a God. He's also limited as to what he can do in the ring. Unfortunately for Diaz, what Hatton does well, would probably work very well for the Hitman against Diaz. WHich is why I like Hatton in a fight. Certainly not because Diaz hasn't fought at 140.

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