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  • F-22 Raptor
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    #51
    Yeah Addison, i understand your points. But honestly, a rematch is not what we Cotto fans want to see. If a rematch happens, it will most likely be the same outcome although Mosley could win by points... Mosley is an all time great, sure, but we want to see Cotto beat the **** out of other guys since Floyd wont fight him. A Cotto-Cintron fight would be beautiful, judging from Cintrons last fight, Cotto is going to own him. A marg, i mean...marg is good...but hes overrated, hasnt really beaten any proven champion with big names, unlike Cotto, and his style to me is just perfect for a can o whoop ass from Cotto. Hes not a sneeze, but he wont be a favorite. Paul williams is not a welterweight, has not beaten any relevants elite unlike Cotto either, and has not earned his shot yet..he need 2-3 more fights to deserve a fight with Cotto. Gomez is just the only, besides his wba mandatory yuriv, that can be put in front of him atm. I would absolutely love he faced Judah again, cuz i find it entertaining seeing zab losing all the time, but nobody wants to see that neways. lets see what happens . . .

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      #52
      Originally posted by toincito
      Yeah Addison, i understand your points. But honestly, a rematch is not what we Cotto fans want to see. If a rematch happens, it will most likely be the same outcome although Mosley could win by points... Mosley is an all time great, sure, but we want to see Cotto beat the **** out of other guys since Floyd wont fight him. A Cotto-Cintron fight would be beautiful, judging from Cintrons last fight, Cotto is going to own him. A marg, i mean...marg is good...but hes overrated, hasnt really beaten any proven champion with big names, unlike Cotto, and his style to me is just perfect for a can o whoop ass from Cotto. Hes not a sneeze, but he wont be a favorite. Paul williams is not a welterweight, has not beaten any relevants elite unlike Cotto either, and has not earned his shot yet..he need 2-3 more fights to deserve a fight with Cotto. Gomez is just the only, besides his wba mandatory yuriv, that can be put in front of him atm. I would absolutely love he faced Judah again, cuz i find it entertaining seeing zab losing all the time, but nobody wants to see that neways. lets see what happens . . .
      I totally agree with what you're saying. But the Cotto fans that are already onboard aren't the folks that Top Rank are concerned with. It's the other potential fans they want to bring into the fold. Fighting "nobody's" won't do **** for Miguel's profile.

      Will Top Rank let Cotto fight Cintron? It doesn't look that way.. And again, if Miguel somehow loses to any ^ of these guys it could be extremely damaging to his career. Losing to Shane Mosley after already beating him once does no damage, at all. Just look at Marquez and Vazquez, Barrera and Morales. These things are good for everyone involved.

      Fighting Mosley (in a worst case scenario should he lose the second fight) twice this year would be big money, and continued big exposure for Miguel.
      Let's say he fights Mosley again wins and moves on, or loses and fights Shane again at the end of the year and comes out with the 2-1 margin. That's a good ****ing year in terms of profile and finances.

      Miguel wants to fight the "big names" because he wants to get on that A-list and stay there. Fighting Cintron or someone like that does not serve that aim.

      Like Miguel said; business is business, and he wouldn't have mentioned fighting Mosley again unless he understood it would be damn good business.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Addison
        I totally agree with what you're saying. But the Cotto fans that are already onboard aren't the folks that Top Rank are concerned with. It's the other potential fans they want to bring into the fold. Fighting "nobody's" won't do **** for Miguel's profile.

        Will Top Rank let Cotto fight Cintron? It doesn't look that way.. And again, if Miguel somehow loses to any ^ of these guys it could be extremely damaging to his career. Losing to Shane Mosley after already beating him once does no damage, at all. Just look at Marquez and Vazquez, Barrera and Morales. These things are good for everyone involved.

        Fighting Mosley (in a worst case scenario should he lose the second fight) twice this year would be big money, and continued big exposure for Miguel.
        Let's say he fights Mosley again wins and moves on, or loses and fights Shane again at the end of the year and comes out with the 2-1 margin. That's a good ****ing year in terms of profile and finances.

        Miguel wants to fight the "big names" because he wants to get on that A-list and stay there. Fighting Cintron or someone like that does not serve that aim.

        Like Miguel said; business is business, and he wouldn't have mentioned fighting Mosley again unless he understood it would be damn good business.
        Goddamn Addison. Why does your **** always make sense?

        Anyways, for Miguel, Mosley is the past, im sure he would fight him if there were NO other options, but I was talking with Joey, his assistant, the other day, and they want him to take 2-3 easy fights, the kind of fights where he destroys people the way he did Quintana. They believe that Cotto needs more knockouts in his resume, thats why Gomez, Marg, and possibly end of the year Clottey. But they dont want any nobodys, they want at least names people recognize. A fight with margo will earn him 5-6 mill, and thats good in his book trust me.

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          #54
          Originally posted by toincito
          Goddamn Addison. Why does your **** always make sense?

          Anyways, for Miguel, Mosley is the past, im sure he would fight him if there were NO other options, but I was talking with Joey, his assistant, the other day, and they want him to take 2-3 easy fights, the kind of fights where he destroys people the way he did Quintana. They believe that Cotto needs more knockouts in his resume, thats why Gomez, Marg, and possibly end of the year Clottey. But they dont want any nobodys, they want at least names people recognize. A fight with margo will earn him 5-6 mill, and thats good in his book trust me.
          I'm not sure why, but that came off as pretty funny.

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            #55
            Originally posted by toincito
            Goddamn Addison. Why does your **** always make sense?

            Anyways, for Miguel, Mosley is the past, im sure he would fight him if there were NO other options, but I was talking with Joey, his assistant, the other day, and they want him to take 2-3 easy fights, the kind of fights where he destroys people the way he did Quintana. They believe that Cotto needs more knockouts in his resume, thats why Gomez, Marg, and possibly end of the year Clottey. But they dont want any nobodys, they want at least names people recognize. A fight with margo will earn him 5-6 mill, and thats good in his book trust me.
            That's an interesting angle that has some serious merit. A brilliant invention if this is your handi-work, Toincito. Although, chances are slim that Miguel will be able to KO even Gomez, let alone Clottey or Margarito.

            The Margarito fight will be decent, but dangerous. Very.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Addison
              That's an interesting angle that has some serious merit. A brilliant invention if this is your handi-work, Toincito. Although, chances are slim that Miguel will be able to KO even Gomez, let alone Clottey or Margarito.

              The Margarito fight will be decent, but dangerous. Very.
              I actually think he has a very good chance to KO. Gomez would be the underdog, a win over Cotto would turn his WHOLE career around. This man will come for the kill. And let's be real, if he decides to engage Miguel in short-range fighting, he's going down. I believe the same applies to both Clottey and Margarito, these guys are just straight up fighters, no boxing or looking pretty kinda guys. And I mean... I just think that Cotto is better at applying pressure and bending people to his will than any of them...his record talks for itself.

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                #57
                I would love too see a rematch but i still dont think mosley can win this one, the first one seem to put mosley in the same spot instead of downgrading him

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                  #58
                  if Mosley can't get a title fight

                  I say fight Mayorga, whoop his ass, then retire

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    That's an interesting angle that has some serious merit. A brilliant invention if this is your handi-work, Toincito. Although, chances are slim that Miguel will be able to KO even Gomez, let alone Clottey or Margarito.

                    The Margarito fight will be decent, but dangerous. Very.
                    Not only do I think Cotto will not stop any of those 3 but I think those will be good matches for him, tough fights. After 3 or 4 more fights I can see Cotto having trouble making 47, we've seen what a drained Cotto looks like, he might have to move up, he's getting too bulky.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by toincito
                      I actually think he has a very good chance to KO. Gomez would be the underdog, a win over Cotto would turn his WHOLE career around. This man will come for the kill. And let's be real, if he decides to engage Miguel in short-range fighting, he's going down. I believe the same applies to both Clottey and Margarito, these guys are just straight up fighters, no boxing or looking pretty kinda guys. And I mean... I just think that Cotto is better at applying pressure and bending people to his will than any of them...his record talks for itself.
                      Could be, no doubt about that.

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