Who won in Ramirez-Whitaker I?

[QuCongee]

I had it 11 to 1 for Whitaker

[Sweet Pete]

I think Ramirez won at most 2 rounds.

And yet you voted for Ramirez? This is why I don't take what you say about Toney seriously.

[Sweet Pete]

I suspect that none of you have seen the fight recently.

Whitaker all but fell apart in the last few round, and he didn't pile the rounds up in the beginning as well has he could have.

The bottom line... Whitaker was young, green, and challenging for his first world title. I thought he won a close decision, but he was not as impressive as many are making him out to be in this fight.

The second fight, that is a whole different story. Whitaker - Ramirez II was without a doubt, Pernell Whitaker's single best display of virtuosity in his entire career. It's what he should have done in the first fight, but was not experienced enough to know.

I actually thing the loss helped Pete out. It taught him how important it is to be flashy when he is working his defense. He learned it's not just enough to make a man miss, he has to make the man look silly while he is making him miss, but he also learned that it can be over done.

This is the fight where Pete really learned what playing to the judges is all about. He didn't do it like should have, and as a result, he through away a victory, that he could have easily won.

First of all, Whitaker wasn't green. He was green when facing someone like Roger Mayweather, but not Ramirez, even though he wasn't peak yet. Second of all, to call that anything less than a disgusting robbery shows why I don't take you seriously. Then you say Toney beat Tiberi and that the fight with Jones was close. You're a fool dude, a fool.

[Fox McCloud]

When I saw "Sweet Pete" posted here, I was pretty sure which way you voted.

[JoeyBB]

I dont think anyone cares if you 'dont take them seriously', Pete. You're a little kid.

[Ged21]

wasnt this a split decision, i remember watching this on espn classic, where they gave a bunch of sweat pea fights, i believe one judge had whitaker losing by a large amount which is absurd and only one judge had the fight close.

[Fox McCloud]

wasnt this a split decision, i remember watching this on espn classic, where they gave a bunch of sweat pea fights, i believe one judge had whitaker losing by a large amount which is absurd and only one judge had the fight close.

Yup, 118-113 Whitaker, 116-115 Ramirez, 117-113 Ramirez.

[Sweet Pete]

I dont think anyone cares if you 'dont take them seriously', Pete. You're a little kid.

LOL, nice rating and karma.

[Sweet Pete]

When I saw "Sweet Pete" posted here, I was pretty sure which way you voted.

What does it matter if I was his son? A blind man could tell he won that fight. This forum is so goddamn lame it's pathetic. Worst boxing forum I've ever been on. Bunch of stereotyping know-nothing ******s.

You also voted for Whitaker, so what the **** does it matter?

[Slotff]

I accidently voted for JLR, I feel like an *******. Whitaker easy.