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  • Nwahs !!
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    #11
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    In your opinion. It's been called the worst robbery of all-time.

    But, there is also this:



    So, have at it!
    It was much closer than many people would like to believe, but Pernell was still very green. It was a great learning experience for him. He learned that you have to take control of the fight, you cant just make people miss all night.

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    • GunStar
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      #12
      Originally posted by DWiens421
      Learn how to vote then!

      Damnit, you are making this look a lot closer than it is.
      I voted for Ramirez to make my boy Ferocity happy.

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      • Nwahs !!
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        #13
        This is a problem many Mayweather nut huggers have. They have trouble distinguishing between being the better fighter, and winning a round..

        Against Ramirez, Whitaker gave away many rounds, even though he was clearly the better fight. He simply wasn't doing enough to win the round in many of them.

        I still gave it to Whitaker, but it wasn't a highway robbery.

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        • Scott9945
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          #14
          Originally posted by Nwahs !!
          This is a problem many Mayweather nut huggers have. They have trouble distinguishing between being the better fighter, and winning a round..

          Against Ramirez, Whitaker gave away many rounds, even though he was clearly the better fight. He simply wasn't doing enough to win the round in many of them.

          I still gave it to Whitaker, but it wasn't a highway robbery.

          Whitaker toyed with the guy the entire fight. It wasn't even close.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Nwahs !!
            This is a problem many Mayweather nut huggers have. They have trouble distinguishing between being the better fighter, and winning a round..

            Against Ramirez, Whitaker gave away many rounds, even though he was clearly the better fight. He simply wasn't doing enough to win the round in many of them.

            I still gave it to Whitaker, but it wasn't a highway robbery.

            Whitaker toyed with the guy the entire fight. It wasn't even close.

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            • GunStar
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              #16
              Originally posted by Nwahs !!
              This is a problem many Mayweather nut huggers have. They have trouble distinguishing between being the better fighter, and winning a round..

              Against Ramirez, Whitaker gave away many rounds, even though he was clearly the better fight. He simply wasn't doing enough to win the round in many of them.

              I still gave it to Whitaker, but it wasn't a highway robbery.
              Dude, that fight was not even close.

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              • Silencers
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                #17
                Originally posted by Nwahs !!
                This is a problem many Mayweather nut huggers have. They have trouble distinguishing between being the better fighter, and winning a round..

                Against Ramirez, Whitaker gave away many rounds, even though he was clearly the better fight. He simply wasn't doing enough to win the round in many of them.

                I still gave it to Whitaker, but it wasn't a highway robbery.
                Whitaker was making him miss and landing way more than Ramirez was, it was a robbery, one of the worst I have seen.

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                  #18
                  Nah, shawn is right. Whitaker did too much clowning and ****ing around. It makes him look bad to the judges.

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                  • Nwahs !!
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by silencers98
                    Whitaker was making him miss and landing way more than Ramirez was, it was a robbery, one of the worst I have seen.
                    I suspect that none of you have seen the fight recently.

                    Whitaker all but fell apart in the last few round, and he didn't pile the rounds up in the beginning as well has he could have.

                    The bottom line... Whitaker was young, green, and challenging for his first world title. I thought he won a close decision, but he was not as impressive as many are making him out to be in this fight.

                    The second fight, that is a whole different story. Whitaker - Ramirez II was without a doubt, Pernell Whitaker's single best display of virtuosity in his entire career. It's what he should have done in the first fight, but was not experienced enough to know.

                    I actually thing the loss helped Pete out. It taught him how important it is to be flashy when he is working his defense. He learned it's not just enough to make a man miss, he has to make the man look silly while he is making him miss, but he also learned that it can be over done.

                    This is the fight where Pete really learned what playing to the judges is all about. He didn't do it like should have, and as a result, he through away a victory, that he could have easily won.
                    Last edited by Nwahs !!; 01-17-2008, 02:13 AM.

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                    • Silencers
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Nwahs !!
                      I suspect that none of you have seen the fight recently.

                      Whitaker all but fell apart in the last few round, and he didn't pile the rounds up in the beginning as well has he could have.

                      The bottom line... Whitaker was young, green, and challenging for his first world title. I thought he won a close decision, but he was not as impressive as many are making him out to be in this fight.

                      The second fight, that is a whole different story. Whitaker - Ramirez II was without a doubt, Pernell Whitaker's single best display of virtuosity in his entire career. It's what he should have done in the first fight, but was not experienced enough to know.

                      I actually thing the loss helped Pete out. It taught him how important it is to be flashy when he is working his defense. He learned it's not just enough to make a man miss, he has to make the man look silly while he is making him miss, but he also learned that it can be over done.

                      This is the fight where Pete really learned what playing to the judges is all about. He didn't do it like should have, and as a result, he through away a victory, that he could have easily won.
                      I watched the fight 2 weeks ago. I couldn't believe they gave the fight to Ramirez, I had 9-3 for Whitaker.

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