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In terms of handspeed Joe Calzaghe
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I think in handspeed Roy got him by a millisecond, but in overall speed no one compares, not even Zab. Also Floyd fights in different ways in different fights. In the Zab fight, he didn't really use handspeed or his footspeed but pressure and upper body movement. He didn't try and outspeed zab , but overpower him.
with Roy u always get the same Roy and I think that is why he has taken some Ls becuase his opponents that were good enough knew what was comingComment
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Roy having faster anything than Mayweather; hands, feet, movement...this is no news flash. Roy is on par with Ray Robinson for physical prowess. Floyd probably has faster reflexes now but that's about it.Comment
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Prime Roy was the quickest fighter i have ever seen his handspeed is better than floyds and in his prime so was his Reflexes and Footwork but now Floyd has quicker footwork he also has a better defense and is probably smarter than Roy. In his prime thoughh Roys Combinations were sick on par with Leonards and RobinsonsComment
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How can u say that Floyd is more intellegent than Rjj? because he hasnt got caught yet and Roy has? Lets see if Mayweather wins 50 fights before he finally gets beat after making history 40 lbs above his original fighting weight, while figting the best fighters out there. Floyd will lose before he gets to 50 wins , I would bet my life on that. He has only began to fight the best the last couple of years. Roy has done that since '93.Comment
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It's not just about speed, it's about accuracy, these guys are two of the fastest, and most accurate punchers of our time if not ever.
Roy's foot speed has slowed, it's why you see him coming up short on punches, which didn't used to happen much back in the day.
His hand speed is still tremendously quick...Comment
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we can say it, because it is true. I'LL TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS SO YOU CAN COMPREHEND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS A MUCH SMARTER FIGHTER THAN ROY HAS EVER BEEN AND WILL EVER BE, PRIME OR NOT. FLOYD'S FOUNDATION IS HIS INTELLIGENCE IN THE RING, DUMB ASS. SEE, WHAT YOU A OTHERS ON HERE FAIL TO REMEMBER IS HOW FAST FLOYD TRULY WAS AT 140 AND DOWN, AND HOW FAST HE WAS AT PUNCHING FROM ANGLES, AND I MEAN, POSITIONING HIS BODY TO THROW SHARP PUNCHES 95% OF THE TIME IN HIS FIGHTS. ROY, JUST LIKE LEONARD WAS VERY DYNAMIC, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO INTELLIGENCE AND OVERALL SPEED IN EVERY ASPECT, NEITHER ROY OR RAY TOUCHES FLOYD, PERIOD. HELL, THEY DON'T EVEN TOUCH JAMES TONEY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, ALTHOUGH ROY BEAT HIM, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHOLE CAREER WISE. FLOYD THREW SHARPER PUNCHES, FROM LOW ANGLES AND HIGH ANGLES DAMN NEAR PERFECT. YOU SEE, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS THREAD IS THAT FLOYD DID EVERYTHING SO FLUENTLY, THAT PEOPLE TEND TO FORGET JUST HOW COMPLEX HE TRULY WAS AND STILL IS, BUT I'M FOCUSING ON THE WAS PART. YOU TELL ME A GUY WHO IS/WAS AS ACCURATE AS FLOYD, FROM LOW AND HIGH ANGLES, FROM BODY PUNCHES TO DEFENSE, TO FOOT PLACEMENT AND THREW THE PUNCHES PERFECT. MAYBE A FEW, BUT EVENTHEY ARE AT MOST ON PAR WITH THIS KID. THIS KID WAS JUST SO FLUENT WITH HIS MOVEMENT AND IT LOOKED GREAT ALSO. HE RARELY THREW SLOPPY PUNCHES, AND HIS PUNCH OUTPUT WAS ALWAYS VERY ACCURATE. FLOYD MAYWEATHER WAS BETTER AT CHANGING HIS TEMPO THAN RAY OR ROY WAS IN BOTH OF THEIR PRIMES. YOU GUYS SEEM TO FORGET THIS AND MAINLY FOCUS ON HIS DEFENSE AND LEAD RIGHT HANDS AND POTSHOTS, AND NOT HIS OVERALL MOVEMENT AND BODY POSITIONING WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT REALLY WORTH ARGUING WITH YOU PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T SIT DOWN AND THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE. YOU GUYS SEEM TO HAVE A ONE TRACK MIND. YOU SEEM TO FORGET HOW FAST FLOYD'S JAB WAS EVEN IN THE LATER ROUNDS, AND HIS JAB HAD A LOT OF POWER TO IT AS WELL. FLOYD IS OVERALL FASTER THAN ROY AND MUCH SMARTER THAN HE WAS AND IS. AGAIN PEOPLE, STOP GIVING BULL**** ARGUMENTS.Comment
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then again... its hard to take you seriously with that little line under your user name
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UH OH. YOU GOT ME WITH THAT ONE DIDN'T YOU? HOW ABOUT ACTUALLY POSTING SOMETHING LOGICAL BECAUSE THIS **** WON'T CUT IT. INSULTING ME ONLY GETS YOU A SMALL AMOUNT OF GROUPIES ON THIS FORUM, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. YOU COULDN'T EVEN RESPOND TO MY POST BECAUSE YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN IN YOUR LITTLE PUNY HEART, THAT I AM MAKING GREAT POINTS AND ACTUAL DECENT ARGUMENTS. YOU, I HAVE NEVER REALLY HAD A PROBLEM WITH YOU, AND YOU DON'T KNOW **** ABOUT THE LITTLE LINE UNDER MY USER NAME, DON'T KNOW WHO PUT IT THERE, DON'T KNOW **** ABOUT IT, BUT DECIDED TO SPEAK ON IT INSTEAD OF POSTING SOMETHING RELEVANT TP PROVE ME WRONG. HA HA HA . TO YOU I LAUGH AT AND IT'S A SHAME, BECAUSE I CANNOT RECALL ME EVER HAVING A PROBLEM WITH YOUR LITTLE PUNK ASS, BUT NOW I GUESS SINCE I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR BOY IN A DECENT WAY, AND YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, BUT SEEMS IMCAPABLE OF ACUTALLY MAKING A DECENT RESPONSE TO MY POST, YOU'RE A LITTLE BITTER, BUT THAT'S JUST FINE AND DANDY, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY POST SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, AND YOUR INSULT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, LET'S LEAVE IT AT THAT. YOU CANNOT REALLY ARGUE AGAINST ME, YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THAT ON THIS PARTICUALR THREAD ARE YOU BOY? NOW, TRY TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER INSULT OR TRY TO ACTUALLY PROVE SOMETHING, COZ YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO SO FAR. I HAVE VALID POINTS, AND I HAVE BOTH ROY'S AND FLOYD'S AND RAY'S WHOLE CAREER ON VHS AND DVD, SO I HAVE WATCHED THEIR FIGHTS IN DEPTH, AND CAN BACK UP EVERYTHING I SAID, BECAUSE I FOUGHT MYSELF FOR 8 YEARS, AND MY STYLE WAS LIKE FLOYD'S, RAY'S, AND ROY'S, SO I HAVE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH ALL OF THEIR STYLES AND FLOYD IS A SMARTER FIGHTER THAN THE BOTHG OF THEM, FACE IT, IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE, YOU HAVE TO REALLY KEEP AN OPEN MIND, I HAVE DONE JUST THAT. I HAVE BROKE DOWN ROY'S STYLE TO A TEE BEFORE AND FLOYD'S STYLE TO A TEE. DON'T COME IN HERE TRYING TO INSULT ME, WITHOUT ACTAULLY HAVING SOME VALID POINTS TO BACK YOUR GAY INSULTS UP WITH BOY.Comment
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im not even gonna read ur long ass post... this is a debatable topic... its a topic that cant be proven.. on top of that... floyds my 2nd favorite fighter... sooooo theres no point in even arguing it... i like em bothComment
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