Roy Jones JR is the most overated Fighter ever

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Hmm let me see.
Why didn't he re-match Hopkins who himself says hit his prime 8 yrs after Roy?
Why didn't he fight Toney again up the Ladder?
Dariusz Michalczewski?
Get my drift?
Or do you accept Hopkins was at his peak in 1993?

Hopkins priced himself out of his career high payday, because he wanted 50-50. I dont think he was scared, he was just too proud.

Toney did not do much with his record to get him closer to a rematch (and the first fight was a thorough embarassment -and I hate to admit that Toney would ever be embarassed in a boxing ring by anyone- so there was no need of an immediate rematch. His performance at 175 includes 2 losses to Griffin and the Tahzi (spelling) fight. Then he moved up to cruiser (in '97?!?!) and did not collect meaningful wins until later on. The only time in which he had a claim to fight Jones was after the Jirov fight while Jones just fought at HW. At that time Jones was moving back down to LHW to fight Tarver and, as we all know, started losing it. Sadly, Toney was not a force in any division for MANY years, and it's only his fault.

DM never wanted to come to US, why should RJJ exactly go to the land of Ottke-Reid again?

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Yes, let's see moofo.



So in May 1993, Roy Jones - the IBF's #2 ranked middleweight - should NOT have fought Bernard Hopkins - the IBF's NUMBER ONE ranked middleweight - for the VACANT title because what...? Wouldn't you say that was the right time? Didn't he WIN? And then move on and notch even bigger wins en route to becoming known as the world's best? One, How did he stop a rematch from happening and two, how does this prove your initial point that Roy didn't fight him at the right time?



Because James Toney lost his subsequent bouts? And so Roy fought the guy WHO BEAT HIM like a CHAMPION should? WTF?


Didn't I answer this?



No.



Not that you're making any sense but I'll answer anyway. NO. And neither was Roy Jones. I'm through with this debate--for now. Some pretty big football games today and I'm not in the mood to go back and forth with guys who clearly have personal biases. Overrated? Give me a break.

Yes Roy should have faced Slopkins in 93.
He should then have re-matched him when he was the older better established fighter.
Don't you think?
Or as a fan of Boxing and Roy why wouldn't you want to see Roy fighting Hopkins again rather than Bum of the month?

[mrpain81]

Haterz

I like Floyd & Roy check how many hate thread's i have started about either fighter ,that is a typical reaction of a die hard fan

i just want to see the best of both fighter's there is nothing worse than watching a fighter beat up on anitoher who u know just aint got the skill's to make the fight compeitive , yet there are fighter's out there people are crying out for u to fight cause at the very least it would be great entertainment

You argue that Mike Mccallum was old.

Toney was Fat.

Hopkins was Green.

Ruiz ******.

People can argue that Leonard never fought Pryor, Ray admitted he knew Duran blew up before fights. Thats why he signed the rematch with Duran so fast, Leonard only fought Hagler because he said he looked old against Mugabi.

Every fighter can be nit picked into looking worst then they are...

Duran lost in his prime to Esteban Dejesus and got dropped in that fight.

He quit when he was still in his prime comming off his best win.

He was Ko'd with one punch.

One of his biggest win was against Davey Moore who had 12 pro fights (talk about Green)

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Yo Divad.. Feel like betting whats left of your points against the "most overrated fighter of all time???"

[Dynamite Kid]

You argue that Mike Mccallum was old.

Toney was Fat.

Hopkins was Green.

Ruiz ******.

People can argue that Leonard never fought Pryor, Ray admitted he knew Duran blew up before fights. Thats why he signed the rematch with Duran so fast, Leonard only fought Hagler because he said he looked old against Mugabi.

Every fighter can be nit picked into looking worst then they are...

Duran lost in his prime to Esteban Dejesus and got dropped in that fight.

He quit when he was still in his prime comming off his best win.

He was Ko'd with one punch.

One of his biggest win was against Davey Moore who had 12 pro fights (talk about Green)

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1 . dont ever compare Roy Jones JR to Ray Leonard the guy beat 4 ATG

2 . Toney was fat as a matter of fact i have not mentioned Toney weight issue's that people alway's bring up about this fight

3 no i agree with u Mike McCallum was not Old he was a young 40 LOL

4 .and Ruiz did'nt really suck did he ,mate u know this guy was terrible i dont know why u are lying to yourself ,he was absolutely awfull


just show what a nuthugger u are it's because of people like u that i claim Roy is overated ,SRL beat Legendery Fighter's 4 ATG'' ,Roy beat Toney & Hopkins

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1 . dont ever compare Roy Jones JR to Ray Leonard the guy beat 4 ATG

2 . Toney was fat as a matter of fact i have not mentioned Toney weight issue's that people alway's bring up about this fight

3 no i agree with u Mike McCallum was not Old he was a young 40 LOL

4 .and Ruiz did'nt really suck did he ,mate u know this guy was terrible i dont know why u are lying to yourself ,he was absolutely awfull


just show what a nuthugger u are it's because of people like u that i claim Roy is overated ,SRL beat Legendery Fighter's 4 ATG'' ,Roy beat Toney & Hopkins

beat hopkins with one hand..

dominated toney..

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beat hopkins with one hand..

dominated toney..

Who else?.....

[Dynamite Kid]

Who else?.....

Hall .Frazier,lucas ,Kelly

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1 . dont ever compare Roy Jones JR to Ray Leonard the guy beat 4 ATG

Leonard did not rematch any of them (except Duran and Hearns until years later when they were all old and shot and hte fights wre meaningless, but provided a lot more cash than more dangerous opponents such as Nunn or McCallum.).

Leonard used his star power big time in negotiatons against TWO of those 4 ATG.

So yeah you can compare Leonard to Jones and Mayweather all you want. In fact he is the first of the current breed of boxer-businessmen.

[SkillspayBills]

You argue that Mike Mccallum was old.

Toney was Fat.

Hopkins was Green.

Ruiz ******.

People can argue that Leonard never fought Pryor, Ray admitted he knew Duran blew up before fights. Thats why he signed the rematch with Duran so fast, Leonard only fought Hagler because he said he looked old against Mugabi.

Every fighter can be nit picked into looking worst then they are...

Duran lost in his prime to Esteban Dejesus and got dropped in that fight.

He quit when he was still in his prime comming off his best win.

He was Ko'd with one punch.

One of his biggest win was against Davey Moore who had 12 pro fights (talk about Green)

I totally agree. You can do this to ANYONE'S resume. There is no point in slagging a person's resume because you can find negatives to almost any opponent that a fighter has beaten. Roy is what he is, a great athlete and an ATG fighter who could have had a better resume if circumstances were different.