Roy Jones JR is the most overated Fighter ever

[Dynamite Kid]

Im sure u would be as philosopshical if Calzaghe had failed a drug's test or Hamed ,LMFAO

Paulie u are one hell of a hypocrite if the boot were on the other foot u would not hold back & we both know it

[IMDAZED]

I don't know how you can overrate Roy Jones Jr.

What I've seen so far in these threads are attempts at minimizing his accomplishments - that's a pretty exhausting exercise when trying to downplay a fighter who began at 154 and ended his pound for pound reign by beating a top 5 HW. An eight-time champ who won titles in four divisions, made 18 defenses, barely lost a round for nearly a decade and beat 19 past or present world champions, including:

A Hall of Famer and near-ATG in James Toney, when Toney was at the absolute height of his powers. Some will argue that "Lights Out" was weight-drained; I'd argue that's been the case in every single one of his bouts up until HW. It was only an excuse when Jones handed him his ass. I mean, wasn't it Toney who, just four months before fighting Jones, looked absolutely masterful stopping Prince Charles Williams? No weight problem there? And there wasn't any weight problem when he went from 226 to 190 in order to fight Vasily Jirov. Perhaps Jones was just...that good?

A fellow ATG in Bernard Hopkins. Some will say that Hopkins was green...funny how he wouldn't lose again for 12 years (if you want to count the losses to Taylor), holding on to a title Jones LEFT for him. Perhaps Jones was just...that good?

HW John Ruiz, who he skipped a division for and STILL gave up 25lbs. How ridiculous is that? Going from fighting 175lbers to fighting one 50lbs. bigger? That's like Pretty Boy Floyd beating a top five cruiser.

Oh, and save for a blip against Montell Griffen, he pretty much waxed every other fighter he fought EASY. And that included some good CHAMPIONS (NINETEEN of them, to be exact), plenty of contenders and yes, some BUMS too. Like any other ATG did.

And finally, closing in on 35, he lost. Newsflash: This also happened to most ATG's. Just ask Sugar Ray Leonard. And it doesn't erase the ridiculous accomplishments he already notched under his belt.

It's almost laughable to listen to people on this board cry, "see, I told you so!" after waiting TEN YEARS for it to happen. Seriously...overrated? You're barking up the wrong tree.

[big paulie]

I don't know how you can overrate Roy Jones Jr.

What I've seen so far in these threads are attempts at minimizing his accomplishments - that's a pretty exhausting exercise when trying to downplay a fighter who began at 154 and ended his pound for pound reign by beating a top 5 HW. An eight-time champ who won titles in four divisions, made 18 defenses, barely lost a round for nearly a decade and beat 19 past or present world champions, including:

A Hall of Famer and near-ATG in James Toney, when Toney was at the absolute height of his powers. Some will argue that "Lights Out" was weight-drained; I'd argue that's been the case in every single one of his bouts up until HW. It was only an excuse when Jones handed him his ass. I mean, wasn't it Toney who, just four months before fighting Jones, looked absolutely masterful stopping Prince Charles Williams? No weight problem there? And there wasn't any weight problem when he went from 226 to 190 in order to fight Vasily Jirov. Perhaps Jones was just...that good?

A fellow ATG in Bernard Hopkins. Some will say that Hopkins was green...funny how he wouldn't lose again for 12 years (if you want to count the losses to Taylor), holding on to a title Jones LEFT for him. Perhaps Jones was just...that good?

HW John Ruiz, who he skipped a division for and STILL gave up 25lbs. How ridiculous is that? Going from fighting 175lbers to fighting one 50lbs. bigger? That's like Pretty Boy Floyd beating a top five cruiser.

Oh, and save for a blip against Montell Griffen, he pretty much waxed every other fighter he fought EASY. And that included some good CHAMPIONS (NINETEEN of them, to be exact), plenty of contenders and yes, some BUMS too. Like any other ATG did.

And finally, closing in on 35, he lost. Newsflash: This also happened to most ATG's. Just ask Sugar Ray Leonard. And it doesn't erase the ridiculous accomplishments he already notched under his belt.

It's almost laughable to listen to people on this board cry, "see, I told you so!" after waiting TEN YEARS for it to happen. Seriously...overrated? You're barking up the wrong tree.

Take note you ****ing hating morons

[moofo]

There you go mate, ive been here a short while but its evident that your one of the least liked posters here.....get the hint

The constant green karma would indicate otherwise.
So how do you explain that?
Where are your facts?
How can you prove I am one of the least liked posters?
Lets see your evidence.

[big paulie]

[QUOTE=moofo;3038805]The constant green karma would indicate otherwise.
So how do you explain that?
taking advantage of the fact i cant use this ****ing thing again!

[moofo]

How is saying taking steriods do not increase boxing talent implying they do not give you any advantage?

You make no sense, i think deep down inside of you there is a boy with ADHD trying to get out.

Why do you feel the need to use really tired insults from yesteryear?
Do you think it makes you look clever?
You work in a ****ing Sony call centre and you have the nerve to call me ******.
Get a real job bozo.

[Dynamite Kid]

like i said dont everyone know that everybody avoided Roy Post Toney & that the ones that did'nt price themselves out of a deal LOL no hater's here Paulie just nuthhugger's like yourself who is biased to **** ,hypocrite

[big paulie]

like i said dont everyone know that everybody avoided Roy Post Toney & that the ones that did'nt price themselves out of a deal LOL no hater's here Paulie just nuthhugger's like yourself who is biased to **** ,hypocrite

So, look at the big picture, not just your or my opinion, how do you think rjj will be remembered?

[Technical_Skill]

Why do you feel the need to use really tired insults from yesteryear?
Do you think it makes you look clever?
You work in a ****ing Sony call centre and you have the nerve to call me ******.
Get a real job bozo.

Ive seen your 'material'...

that shocking attempt at being funny in the thunderdome went down so bad Welter Skelter gave it 2/10 and you re-edited the orginal post apologising and saying you wouldnt come back until you thought of something funny.



You got as much class as a teacher during Half Term Holidays.

Pitiful.

[moofo]

[QUOTE=big paulie;3038811]

The constant green karma would indicate otherwise.
So how do you explain that?
taking advantage of the fact i cant use this ****ing thing again!

What?
Have some red K Paulie you are boring me now.